Talk:4 Times Square/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Sammi Brie (talk · contribs) 04:23, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

   Add alt text to images

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Copy changes

Antenna mast

• Someone on the talk page noted that this passage was redundant: Below that is an antenna for very high frequency broadcasts, and the lowest tier has an antenna for FM broadcast. They're right, and it might be worth mentioning that low-VHF station WJLP is up here.
  • @Sammi Brie: I added WJLP, but I'm a little confused about the redundancy. Since you know much more about broadcasting than I do, could you clarify what the talk page comment is saying? This is quoted directly from the Fybush source used here: Below that, two Dielectric broadband antennas handle the rest of the UHF spectrum, and below that are master antennas for VHF high and low band and for FM. Epicgenius (talk) 16:49, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
    • @Epicgenius: Was hoping I'd hear Scott Fybush's name here! Best way to think about it is this. VHF is 30–300 MHz. FM is 88–108. Below FM are physical TV channels 2 through 6 (WJLP is on 3, it was still in Nevada when that was written :P) in 54–88 MHz and above it (and a bunch of other stuff) are physical channels 7 to 13 (I do not believe 4TS is used by any high-VHF stations) in 174–216 MHz. It's clear from reading Scott that, in the 4TS expansion, the facility was designed to handle the entire market's worth of communications needs in case something happened again, though ultimately a lot of TV went back to the Empire State Building (and some of it then migrated to One WTC, which wasn't initially intended to house broadcasters).

I think only two full-power TVs are on the building at this time: WJLP and WNYE-TV. WFUT moved to the Empire State Building, probably during the incentive auction when it sold its spectrum to share with WXTV. WABC was up there for a time too. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 17:28, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

Lower stories

• The lobby is on the east side of the ground floor and is accessed from both 42nd and 43rd Streets. The lobby ceiling contains aluminum and fiberglass panels, which curve downward from both entrances toward the center of the lobby. The lobby has an exhibit of the Durst Organization's history. The lobby... The lobby, the lobby, the lobby! Some variety in sentence starting is sorely needed here.
  • I changed it up a bit. Epicgenius (talk) 16:49, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

2000s

• Several radio broadcasts had also been forced to move to 4 Times Square after the attacks, prompting the addition of an FM receiver for WNYC in March 2002. "Receiver" is not the right word here; I'd use "antenna" in keeping with the original source and probably change "radio broadcasts" to "radio stations".
  • Done. Epicgenius (talk) 16:49, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

Critical reception

• with other contemporary developments, and — remove the comma, add "that" after "and"
  • Done. Epicgenius (talk) 16:49, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

Other items

• Earwig mostly flags quotes and long proper names (e.g. "Empire State Development Corporation").
• References are archived.
• Add alt text to the images. If the caption suffices, just use |alt=Refer to caption.
  • Done. Epicgenius (talk) 21:10, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

Summary

It's great, just needs some tidying up in some small places (and alt text). Perhaps coming back to this page after a few months will give you some fresh eyes, too, one of the few benefits of a long wait at GAN. Putting on hold. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 04:40, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

@Sammi Brie, thanks for the review. I've fixed all of the above issues now. – Epicgenius (talk) 21:10, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.