Talk:32 Old Slip

32 Old Slip has been listed as one of the Art and architecture good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Review: October 2, 2014. (Reviewed version).

A fact from 32 Old Slip appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 4 September 2014 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the United States Mint sold the 32 Old Slip site in Manhattan for US$27 million, making it the most valuable US Government property sold at public auction?

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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:32 Old Slip/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: CaroleHenson (talk · contribs) 03:54, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

--I am starting the review today.--CaroleHenson (talk) 03:54, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Overview

The article is well-written. It is not particularly long for a GA article, but it does adequately and concisely cover the subject from what I've read. There's good paraphrasing of the content. The lead sections, layout, etc. are in accordance with the Manual of Style. Inline citations to reliable, verifiable sources are used throughout the article; there's no indication of original research. The article is written from a neutral point of view and is stable. The one image is in the public domain and is licensed correctly in commons. There were some minor edits, so I hope you don't mind, I just went ahead and tackled them. It seems faster for everyone than making and working a list of little things.

Content

I made some copy edits that you may want to look at in his version comparison.
- A few changes are: added citation for the engine and ladder companies; capitalized the names of Engine Company 4 and Ladder Company 15; put "US" for the first use of the dollar sign (currency symbols, and removed a "Real Deal" website parameter where it didn't apply.
- The rest are really minor edits or wikilinking, which are pretty self-explanatory. If you prefer previous language in most cases that's not an issue. See what you think.
Also, a minor item, the citation dates are all in the same mdy format now (not really a GA issue, just little tweaks cause I like to).

Suggestion

There are some newspaper article topics that might be interesting to add for a "Further reading" section. It could be useful for expansion to a Feature article -- or just give readers a bit more to delve into if their interested.

Perhaps more articles about structural engineering for earthquakes, with benefits for floods.
"Sentry Centers Plans to Develop New York Conference Center." Wireless News. Close-Up Media, Inc. September 26, 2012.

"Sentry Centers, a provider of dedicated conference centers in New York, announced plans for its third conference center: a new facility at 32 Old Slip in Downtown Manhattan. According to a release, Sentry Centers at 32 Old Slip will open in December 2012 after a $3.6 million renovation with 11 meeting rooms to accommodate groups from eight to 275 attendees. It is conveniently located one block from Water Street and Wall Street, and will be the first conference center of its size ever to open in downtown Manhattan."

There's a number of The Real Estate Weekly articles about programs for the building's tenants - on their own they're not notable, but the number of activities is interesting / unusual. Maybe there's one article that it is a summary -- perhaps something related to 2008 Real Estate Board of New York (REBNY) Commercial Management award: "Other award winners were Michael Prefi of CB Richard Ellis, who received the On-Site Manager of the Year Award for his dedication and professional achievement in the successful management of 32 Old Slip, a 1,050,000 s/f Class A property."

Comments

The net-net of all of this is - I didn't find anything major or anything requiring clarification - yeah! It would be great if you could look over the copy edits and see what you think. The suggestions for a Further reading section is just that, a suggestion.--CaroleHenson (talk) 09:06, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@CaroleHenson: Thanks for all the feedback! No issues that I can tell from your copy edits – they are much appreciated. I do like the suggestion of adding further reading. From my research there was not much more relevant things to say about the building, but there's certainly plenty of less-encyclopedic information people might find useful, so why not let them know about it. By "articles about structural engineering for earthquakes", did you mean internal links? For instance Earthquake engineering. They could go in a "See also" section. — MusikAnimal ^talk 14:41, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I was thinking in terms of news or scholar articles from google to find article about how cities in low-lying areas are planning for the threat of flooding with global warming and/or hurricane seasons. I thought it was really interesting that the structural engineering for earthquakes also helped with flooding. (When I lived and worked in Manhattan I was one of the consultants that was involved in disaster recovery planning -- and there are so many issues in NY and not a lot of solutions -- so this was really cool to me!). Let me see if I can scout around for a couple of examples.--CaroleHenson (talk) 15:15, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I didn't have much luck - the best article that I found was already used in the article... and the sources for meaningful content were limited to a few trade magazines that are going to be meaningless / inaccessible to most people.--CaroleHenson (talk) 16:37, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've passed the article. If you'd like have further reading for the management award and/or conference center and need help with that, let me know. Sorry about the engineering angle, I truly thought I'd find something.--CaroleHenson (talk) 16:51, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No worries! Thank you very much for taking the time to review the article, your initiative to expand on it, and your offer for a helping hand :) Cheers — MusikAnimal ^talk 17:30, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It was very much my pleasure! Great job!--CaroleHenson (talk) 17:44, 2 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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