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Reviewer: Peacemaker67 (talk · contribs) 22:36, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]


This article is in pretty good shape. A few comments from me:

  • WWII is linked twice in the lead
  • it obviously operated under several names. Should any of the alternatives be bolded in the lead per MOS:BOLDSYN?
  • the lead should probably mention that it underwent several re-organisations and quite a few of its formations were sent to the west as reinforcements during WWII
  • "that served in the Far East as part of the Soviet Far East Front" is a bit redundant, you could quite reasonably drop "in the Far East".
  • the award of the Order of the Red Banner in the infobox is unsupported in the body
  • suggest "spent the bulk of WWII guarding..." to accommodate the Manchurian campaign
  • suggest "The 2nd OKA included..."
  • some more brief info is needed about the Battles of Khalkhin Gol. Just a mention that they involved a series of border clashes between the USSR and Japan in Manchukuo.
  • it isn't clear why the Far Eastern Front was Red Banner when the 2nd Army was created, but not when it was recreated. Can you clarify? Also, did it have a abbreviation?
  • Attempted to clarify this above; it 'lost' the award when the Red Banner was given to both 1st and 2nd Armies in 1938. When the front was reformed the award was not mentioned as part of the front's designation. The abbreviation for Far Eastern Front, transliterated from Russian, is DVF, but I didn't include it because the front is not mentioned frequently.Kges1901 (talk) 02:02, 20 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • "headquarters of the 2nd..." I suggest giving its full name immediately instead of in the next sentence, otherwise it may cause confusion as to whether there were two armies
  • "sent reinforcements to the front" I assume this is the front in the west of the USSR? What was it referred to as by the USSR? Should be clarified.
  • it isn't clear why some fortified regions are redlinked, and others are not
  • to be consist and clear, once you've introduced SmAD, 2nd KA and VVS as abbreviations, use them, for example 31st SmAD
  • so the 95th SmAD became the 95th IAD then back to 95th SmAD between August and October 1941, and then back to 95th IAD then 95th SmAD in December? What was that about, the aircraft it operated?
  • did "a separate cavalry regiment" have a designation?
  • was the 101st Fortified Region part of the 2nd KA? If so, clarify, if not, I'd specify that they were no longer on the 2nd KA orbat
  • the VVS/Air Force's are a bit confusing. I suggest each time you use the combination "VVS of the 2nd KA" or "VVS of the Far Eastern Front"
  • 96th SmAD was converted to a fighter division? What was its designation? IAD?
  • "four rifle brigades were used to form" probably needs some qualification, perhaps "during the early part of 1945, its four rifle brigades were used to form..." then which the four divisions were isn't immediately clear, 342nd, 345th, 396th and 355th? Suggest listing them, and then detailing what happened to them, including clarifying that the 87th Rifle Corps and Chuguyevka Operational Group were not part of the 2nd KA and thus these were transfers out of 2nd KA.
  • what rank was Purkayev?
  • The first Glantz book isn't used, suggest moving to a Further reading section
  • the map is currently nominated for deletion. I can't pass this (with the map included) until that is resolved.
  • I suggest creating full citations using the cite web template for the mechcorps pages, then just using a shortened citation for the footnotes. This will tidy up the References section and allow you to use 30em or even 20em to create columns on wider screens (not a GA requirement).

That's me done. Placing on hold for the above to be addressed. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 00:16, 20 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This article is well-written, verifiable using reliable sources, covers the subject well, is neutral and stable, contains no plagiarism, and is illustrated by an appropriately licensed image with an appropriate caption. Passing. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 23:22, 20 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

69th Motorized Division

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This division is listed as present with the army by Niehorster on 22 June 1941. Our 69th Rifle Division (Soviet Union) article does not support this - probably needs a BSSA check. Buckshot06 (talk) 00:36, 20 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]