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Including potential candidates

Currently, it appears as though there is a divergence in what is considered a "potential" candidate. The definition that closely aligns with Wikipedia's policies is a candidate who has received sustained, non-trivial coverage. The standard for that as it applies here is two separate references that discuss the candidate in detail. Gavin Newsom clearly qualifies, as does Kamala Harris and JD Vance. The second definition is any candidate who has received a measure of discussion, such as Pete Buttigieg and Wes Moore. It appears as though editors—many of them through IP addresses—have sought to include potential candidates on the basis that their name appears repeatedly in sources. I was recently source-gathering the other day when I found a video that seems to describe this, in which NBC News reporter Allan Smith says that there are numerous Democrats vying for the nomination—nearly two dozen, according to his article. I am proposing that new candidates be discussed from here on out. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 02:09, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This was the main issue I had with the article, but it has improved since the start of the AfD. I will agree that a restriction on inclusion without a discussion is a good idea. --Super Goku V (talk) 07:01, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You should also add Raphael Warnock, Jon Ossoff, and Chris Murphy. They appear to be rising stars in the Democratic Party and seem likely to run for the nomination in 2028. 2600:1700:36E0:D120:6538:A428:FE62:E527 (talk) 21:08, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

@Personisinsterest: I believe that Ocasio-Cortez should not be included in this list. The only citations to support her run are from The Hill, which briefly mentions her as a name that reappears in discussions, and a Slate article that suggests that opposite—that the Democratic Party is not considering her and that she should run. I will leave this discussion to determine whether or not she stays in the article. For now, the status quo is to keep her included. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 00:07, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have commented out Ocasio-Cortez given that there are no sources that suggest she will run other than The Hill. The Vanity Fair citation is to an article that is similar in topic to the Slate article that was previously discussed. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 00:03, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, Should someone add the timeline to the article TW929 (talk) 4:32, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

Add Tim Walz to possible Democrat canidates.

a VerseWiki (talk) 01:09, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have two sources within the past six months? David O. Johnson (talk) 01:22, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Politico article listing Walz and Cooper as potential 2028 candidates

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/12/07/demogratic-governors-trump-2028-00193169 TW929 (talk) 03:42, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New R nom poll

https://x.com/PollTracker2024/status/1866244733002990026 TW929 (talk) 23:03, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Thank you for sharing. LV ^{✉ ✎} 00:02, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi why are Vance and Trump Jr yellow in this poll? shouldn't they be red? 136.242.8.16 (talk) 01:00, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's just personal preference; I typically use yellow for ties. If there's opposition, I can change it. LV ^{✉ ✎} 02:45, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I dont have any opposition but the historical precedent that I saw was in R primary polls for 2024 in a tie they were both bold but in white. This is the OnMessage national poll from Jan30-Feb5 2023 TW929 (talk) 04:13, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Including Tulsi Gabbard for the republicans

She will likely be one of the most popular choices, since we’re still early and all things considered, she should be definitely considered as a potential candidate, especially considering she will be part of Trumps cabinet. Could very well run and become a running mate later on. Please include her. 2804:18:150:84DE:91E8:2261:7FD2:6A77 (talk) 22:16, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have any reliable sources to support adding her as a potential candidate? David O. Johnson (talk) 22:45, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Betting odds have her above Glenn youngkin and kemp at the moment, as the 4th most likely Republican. Here’s the link. Very highly respected market. Remember markets got this election right on the nose.

https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/us-politics/us-presidential-election-2028/winner

this source also lists her in a very strong position: https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/11/06/us-presidential-betting-odds-2028-jd-vance-michelle-obama/76092648007/

and the nypost has also used betting odds as a source, so at this point, I think it’s fair to use this as a reference point, considering she already ran for office once. Here’s the link

https://nypost.com/2024/11/06/us-news/betting-odds-revealed-for-2028-presidential-election/

Of course Vance is the front runner by far, but there has been speculation that she could run vying for a vp spot maybe. 2804:14C:183:8E77:50C6:2523:5C4E:42D6 (talk) 00:11, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Neither is a reliable source. Do you have any reliable sources that name Gabbard? --Super Goku V (talk) 03:21, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No I don’t, only online betting and speculation that points to a lot of people wanting her. It’s still 2024 so I don’t imagine there would be much reliable sources on that yet, I do believe she has the potential to be one, and according to betting and public sentiment and the polls that have gotten released for a hypothetical 2028 primary, I’m not the only one. She’s above youngkin, kemp and behind only DeSantis and Vance in every single one. But if that’s what the criteria is, fine. 2804:14C:183:8E77:51EB:E88D:A520:4DD1 (talk) 15:58, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Why do people keep removing Kamala Harris as a "potential contender" from the first part of this page? You guys do know that if she runs again, she will be considered the frontrunner, right? Andy Beshear, on the other hand, has his name scattered all over this page, and on the last poll they took, he got only 2%. Nate12346 (talk) 19:17, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure why she was removed, but I've added Harris back to that part of the lede. David O. Johnson (talk) 20:18, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What makes me feel a bit uneasy is that Andy Beshear is the first person in the contender's list when it should be Kamala Harris. Somebody told me it was supposed to be in "alphabetical order" but I don't see that it's in that order at all. I would appreciate it if you guys could either fix the alphabetical order, or list her first since she is the (current) highest-rated Democratic contender for 2028. Thank you. Nate12346

(talk) 20:18, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It’s not in order of who’s the front runner. Vance should be above DeSantis if that were the case. 2804:14C:183:8E77:A97A:E903:F2EC:8443 (talk) 05:55, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following individuals stated that they would not run for president

This declined section is going further than what has been said by these candidates. These candidates (Fetterman and Cuban) were asked if they had an interest in running for president and replied 'nah' or 'no', Cuban has since entertained the prospect of running with Charles Barkley as his running mate.

There's plenty of reliable sources in which the other potential candidates also say they (currently) have no interest in seeking the presidency, some referring to 2024 but some more generally. However, I'm not going to move them because denying they have an interest in running is not the same as stating they wont run, especially this far out. 80.44.147.119 (talk) 11:53, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What are these sources you are referring to? elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 21:41, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm reluctant to post them because some overzealous editor could move most potential candidates to the declined section.

But here is a (unreliable source) Whitmer interview clip headlined Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer: No interest in ever running for president to show what I mean.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOR1GlgJUUg&t=5s

IMV these are standard non-committal responses from Whitmer, Cuban and Fetterman and not the same as someone stating they will not run. 80.44.147.119 (talk) 23:19, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That video was made two years ago. The "Declined candidates" section should only include candidates who said they will not run at least four years before the election. "I don't foresee [running for president]" is different from a direct no. Quite frankly, every candidate of either party should be discussed on this talk page. I have attempted to do that with Ocasio-Cortez, but the editor who added her did not appear amenable or wanted to have a discussion. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 01:23, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't foresee it... it has never lured my interest, it's hard to distinguish a meaningful difference between that and Fetterman and Cuban responding no when asked if they have an interest in running.

I guess we could go with declines within 4 years of the election, this would mean listing Michelle Obama as a potential until she rules it out again though. (she has a solo article for a 2028 run in The Independent, and is discussed in the NYT, Newsweek, The London Evening Standard, and probably a lot more sources.) 80.44.147.119 (talk) 08:54, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Add Greg Abbott to possible Republican candidate

There are a few articles saying that he could run for president in 2028, I chose Ballotpedia and Silive.com articles that list Abbott as a potential candidates. I don't know if these count as the articles that are needed for the potential candidates, but here are the articles.

After Trump: here are the Republicans who could run for president in 2028 - silive.com, at the bottom of the actual list of names.

Presidential election, 2028 - Ballotpedia, first person mentioned under the Republicans.

He is running for governor again in 2026, so he can run for president if he wants to. Edward of York (talk) 21:01, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]