Talk:2024 United States House of Representatives elections in Wisconsin
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Predictions chart
[edit]Hello @02rufus02 apologies if I come off wrong, but why did you remove the summary chart? I added the chart originally to more easily keep track of seat predictions for each race, as updating 32 different predictions is much more tedious than having one chart to update over time. Talthiel (talk) 01:08, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
Endorser notability
[edit]"Lists of endorsements should only include endorsements by notable people" -- WP:ENDORSE "On Wikipedia, notability is a test used by editors to decide whether a given topic warrants its own article" -- WP:N Whether or not an endorser has their own page is literally the standard used across every election page. Exceptions can only be made if the endorser held a role significant to a certain area, like holding a countywide elected position -- not enough for a WP page in and of itself, but makes them worthy of inclusion for a U.S. House race. That does not apply here. We can't just include every random endorser. BottleOfChocolateMilk (talk) 04:14, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- It's not a random endorser, it's the former head of the National Sheriff's Association. In US house races, local endorsements by people or organizations are very important. Also that's a slippery slope fallacy. I do not just include any random endorser, but those endorsements which are listed on the WisPolitics news source. Talthiel (talk) 04:56, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Talthiel: It is just some random endorser. The NSA has like 50 past presidents, it's not exactly a unique position. If Mahoney is so notable, why doesn't he have a Wikipedia page? Leading a notable group does not inherently make someone notable, hence why none of the other past presidents have a Wikipedia page either. Also, WisPolitics basically just publishes every press release made by the candidate (and the source you cited for Mahoney was, indeed, a press release) so using that as proof that Mahoney's endorsement is noteworthy is laughable. It's basically akin to citing the candidate's Twitter feed. BottleOfChocolateMilk (talk) 18:45, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Because not every notable person to ever exist has had a wikipedia page, people who did work on the Manhattan project are notable, but they don't all have pages. And as I said, it's a notable source, just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's not notable. And as I said as well, at this level of races, all endorsements matter too, part of making one's case as a candidate are laying out who has endorsed you. And again, as I said before, WP:ENDORSE does not specify an endorser needs a wikipedia page to be notable. Talthiel (talk) 18:52, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Talthiel: I'm not going to bother any more with this. A press release is not a "notable source" and Mahoney is a completely non-notable rando, but this argument bores me and clearly neither of us are going to change our mind. However, i will say that what you're doing here pretty clearly violates the CD Rule on Wikipedia. BottleOfChocolateMilk (talk) 19:30, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not violating any rules, and it'd be helpful to actually say the rule instead of just the abbreviation, I'd personally appreciate it. Talthiel (talk) 20:04, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Talthiel: I'm not going to bother any more with this. A press release is not a "notable source" and Mahoney is a completely non-notable rando, but this argument bores me and clearly neither of us are going to change our mind. However, i will say that what you're doing here pretty clearly violates the CD Rule on Wikipedia. BottleOfChocolateMilk (talk) 19:30, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Because not every notable person to ever exist has had a wikipedia page, people who did work on the Manhattan project are notable, but they don't all have pages. And as I said, it's a notable source, just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's not notable. And as I said as well, at this level of races, all endorsements matter too, part of making one's case as a candidate are laying out who has endorsed you. And again, as I said before, WP:ENDORSE does not specify an endorser needs a wikipedia page to be notable. Talthiel (talk) 18:52, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Talthiel: It is just some random endorser. The NSA has like 50 past presidents, it's not exactly a unique position. If Mahoney is so notable, why doesn't he have a Wikipedia page? Leading a notable group does not inherently make someone notable, hence why none of the other past presidents have a Wikipedia page either. Also, WisPolitics basically just publishes every press release made by the candidate (and the source you cited for Mahoney was, indeed, a press release) so using that as proof that Mahoney's endorsement is noteworthy is laughable. It's basically akin to citing the candidate's Twitter feed. BottleOfChocolateMilk (talk) 18:45, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- @BottleOfChocolateMilk Deb McGrath isn't just some random endorser and per your own arguments here, she would be notable enough for inclusion. She's the daughter of 3 term congressman Alvin Baldus, who represented the district in question from 1975-1981. McGrath also ran for this district last year and was widely endorsed in that campaign, even though she eventually lost. Talthiel (talk) 20:14, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
@Talthiel: I'm not going to argue about this because I don't care and neither of us is going to change our mind. That said, accusing someone of acting in "wildly bad faith" purely because you disagree with them is hilarious and pathetic. BottleOfChocolateMilk (talk) 03:02, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- You don't need to be rude and engage in personal attacks man. Talthiel (talk) 03:15, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- Accusing me of engaging in "personal attacks" immediately after accusing me of acting in "wildly bad faith" based on seemingly nothing at all? Interesting strategy! BottleOfChocolateMilk (talk) 19:13, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
Infoboxes/primary boxes
[edit]@Asdasdasdff Apologies if you are busy, but I was wondering when we should add in the infoboxes and primary election tables, should we wait until the candidate lists are finalized or add them in provisionally now? Talthiel (talk) 23:52, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- Might as well get started, I don't think there will be many surprises here, since its a lot harder to launch a secret last minute congressional campaign. -- Asdasdasdff (talk) 18:14, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- Alright, I readded the boxes but updated certain candidacies to reflect pending paperwork review some candidates have Talthiel (talk) 19:43, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
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