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[edit]@Ahammed Saad You have added {{NPOV|date=November 2024}}. Why do you think the neutrality of the neutrality of this article is disputed? C⚛smLearner 💬🔬 07:08, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- We had warnings about using the citations of Indian media since the fall of Hasina. See the discussions in the talk pages of Non-cooperation movement (2024) & 2024 Bangladesh anti-Hindu violence. Ahammed Saad (talk) 07:17, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Many words in the article are found to be offensive: "caning", "thrashed". These words cant't be found in Bangladeshi news articles, these are only used in Indian sources. Previously, the article was more biased in vocabulary, it has improved since then. Please use secondary sources and neutral vocabulary. Ahammed Saad (talk) 07:22, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- It has been claimed on the talk pages of Non-cooperation movement (2024) & 2024 Bangladesh anti-Hindu violence that the Indian media spread false news. But, aside from Al Jazeera, no source has been provided to support this claim. Additionally, on the talk page, AmitKumarDatta180 has expressed concerns about this. But the editors involved in editing that article have not responded.
- What does it imply when Bangladeshi media did not use such terms, but Indian media did? I do not think that those two words are offensive in this context, however, I have replaced them. C⚛smLearner 💬🔬 08:24, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- @CosmLearner I completely agree with Ahammed Saad. You are not adhering to WP:NPOV standrads and adding fabricated news like this. I understand that you have added multiple sources but all of them are linked to Indian Hindutva right wing, like Zee News, News18 and others. I can see detailed description in Non-cooperation movement (2024) on how India's Godi media is trying to portray the uprising as an Islamist-backed military takeover of the country through disinformation which is very visible in the sources you added. Based on fabricated social media posts, the sources are saying Hefazat has called for a genocide and killing of Hindus on November 15, however, the actual official statement from Hefazat is completely different. Please do not add fake news defaming an organization as it is a serious WP:BLP violation. LucrativeOffer (talk) 20:33, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- According to Bangladeshi media, The Business Standard, https://www.tbsnews.net/bangladesh/hefazat-calls-banning-iskcon-terming-it-anti-hindu-militant-group-988186, Hefazat calls for banning Iskcon.
- But https://www.freepressjournal.in/world/bangladesh-hefazat-e-islam-is-not-against-hindus-or-iskcon-says-organisation-leader-after-clashes-between-communities-in-chittagong shows Hefazat-E-Islam Is Not Against ISKCON.
- The two are contradictory. C⚛smLearner 💬🔬 21:03, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Not contradictory, from the source, "noted that some ISKCON members attacked a Muslim shopkeeper in Chittagong under a plot to implement the previous Awami League government agenda by destroying religious harmony", this aligns with what the speakers on November 8 said. However, Hefazat has clarified the rally was not organized centrally by the organization. LucrativeOffer (talk) 21:14, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- @CosmLearner I completely agree with Ahammed Saad. You are not adhering to WP:NPOV standrads and adding fabricated news like this. I understand that you have added multiple sources but all of them are linked to Indian Hindutva right wing, like Zee News, News18 and others. I can see detailed description in Non-cooperation movement (2024) on how India's Godi media is trying to portray the uprising as an Islamist-backed military takeover of the country through disinformation which is very visible in the sources you added. Based on fabricated social media posts, the sources are saying Hefazat has called for a genocide and killing of Hindus on November 15, however, the actual official statement from Hefazat is completely different. Please do not add fake news defaming an organization as it is a serious WP:BLP violation. LucrativeOffer (talk) 20:33, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
Hefazat e Islam
[edit]The conflict on November 5 that took place in Hazari Lane only includes ISCKON members/Hindu mobs and law enforcement agencies. Hefazat e Islam only held a rally few days later after the incident. They are not a party to the conflict. LucrativeOffer (talk) 23:20, 12 November 2024 (UTC)