Talk:2022 Welsh Open (snooker)/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: BennyOnTheLoose (talk · contribs) 21:13, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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Copyvio check: Some overlap of common phrases with sources. Mostly OK but I think the following could be reworked: "breaks of 86 and 53 to move within a frame of victory"; final-frame decider at the Welsh Open, more than any other player in the history of the event."; "missed a red with the rest"

• Looks to be pending a response. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 12:01, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
  • I changed the first, but the other two seem like a WP:LIMITED thing to me. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:52, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

General comments and sources

• There are a few duplicate links: snooker, 2022 Turkish Masters, James Cahill.
  • snooker (in the sense of not leave a clear shot to the objet ball) is still duplicate-linked. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 12:01, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
    • Done Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:55, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
• I amended some hyphens to dashes, and did a little general formatting, with the help of scripts.
• I amended a couple of refs.
• Some refs are out of order, e.g. [65][66][63]; [10][6] - to be reviewed after other amendments.
• Shouldn't flagathlete be used at the first mention of each player in the draw? I know they are used in qualifying results, which were chronologically first, but these aren't first in the article.
  • Fixed Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:27, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
• No harm in adding "Numbers in brackets denote seeded players" in the qualifying section, I think.
  • Done Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:27, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
• The qualifying results look messy to me. I prefer boxes, but not sure if this is a manual of style issue or something that there is a consensus around; might be fine as it is.
  • I don't think it's been discussed. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:27, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
    • OK as is, in that case. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 12:01, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
• The three rte.ie refs are all missing the publisher/website.
  • added Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:27, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
• Inconsistency between livescores.worldsnookerdata.com refs format
  • Done Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:27, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
• Inconsistency between wst.tv refs format
  • Done Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:27, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
• "Selby & Zhao knocked out of Welsh Open" - mising publication date and author.
  • Done Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:27, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
• "Jordan Brown beats Ronnie O'Sullivan in the final frame to win 2021 Welsh Open" - missing author
  • added Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:27, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
• "Champion Brown loses in first round" - title differs from source, missing publication date. (Which can be worked out from archive date, or got from the live version of the page)
  • Done Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:27, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
• "Welsh Open 2022 snooker final LIVE – Joe Perry stuns Judd Trump to become second oldest ranking winner of all time" - missing author. Title of the page is different, probably changed since it was accessed.
  • add Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:27, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
• I checked three Eurosport refs and all were missing authors.
  • I looked at ref 22 and author has not been added, so this probably applies to others too. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 12:01, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
    • I shall have a look through them. Should be no big deal. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:55, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
• I'm happy with the term "straightforward pot", "easy black" and "lax safety shot" etc. in context here, but guess they might raise questions if this went to FAC.

Format

• "The Welsh Open began as a ranking tournament in 1992.[1] The 2022 tournament took place" is a bit of a jump.
  • added some details. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:27, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
• "All matches were the best of seven frames..." - as the 2021 tournament has just been mentioned, maybe something like "For the 2022 edition, all matches were the best of seven frames..."
  • Done Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:27, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
• "will receive a bonus" - suggest rewording this so no-one has to remember to come back and change it later
  • Reworded Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:27, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

Early rounds

• "The held-over qualifying matches" - I think "held-over" needs a bit of explanation here and in the lead.
  • added to body. I don't think it needs a massive note in lede. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:27, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
• "O'Sullivan's involvement in the European Masters final on 27 February.[14] O'Sullivan won the match 4–0" - Could be clearer that it was at the Welsh Open he won 4–0, not in the European Masters final.
  • sure. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:27, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
• Is there a suitable wikilink target for "tour card"?
  • Reworded. I dislike "Tour Card" for this reason. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:27, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
• "but made history as the first woman" - I was excited, but "made history" might be overegging it a bit.
  • agreed Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:27, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
    • It's still in the lead. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 12:01, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
      • Removed Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:55, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
• Could cuegloss "yellow". Don't we normally add "ball" after the colour?
  • Indeed Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:27, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

Last 16

• Could wikilink "century break" at the first instance.
• Could cuegloss "pink" and "red"
• "no Welsh player advanced beyond the round of 16" - the sort of detail that news outlets and Snooker Scene love. Do we need it here, even if it is the Welsh Open?
  • I think it's fine. Done the wikilinks Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:27, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
    • OK. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 12:01, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

Quarter-finals

• "Robertson required foul shots" - reword to show he needed his oppopnent to foul.
  • Done Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:27, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

Final

• Could cuegloss "baulk".
• Could cuegloss "blue".
• "It was Perry's first ranking title win in the United Kingdom, since he had won his previous ranking title in Thailand" - any context to add about why this is worth commenting on? (If not, it's fine.)
  • removed and linked. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:27, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

Images

• Rationale provided for the use of the poster seems reasonable. Other pics are CC.
• Captions and placement are OK.
  • Excellent Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:27, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

Initial comments above, Lee Vilenski. I'll have another look after your responses. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 16:23, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

• Sorry for the wait - I have completed the above BennyOnTheLoose. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:27, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
  • Thanks, Lee Vilenski. Just a couple of minor mop-up tweaks to do, I think. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 12:01, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
    • Should now be all covered BennyOnTheLoose Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 09:08, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
      • Passing for GA, Thanks for your work on the article. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 11:55, 2 June 2022 (UTC)