Talk:2021 Speaker of the United States House of Representatives election
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On 29 March 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved to 2021 United States House of Representatives speakership election. The result of the discussion was not moved. |
Fox News
[edit]I don't know if referencing Fox News about Speaker Pelosi facing a rocky path to the speakership is a great idea. They are conservative and the right-wing in politics has continuously criticized Speaker Pelosi and they would do anything to get rid of her.--JG4236 (talk) 18:21, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
- Fox, unlike Newsmax and OAN, prefers real facts to fiction. They will tout real news even if it doesn't fit their agenda. Arglebargle79 (talk) 12:31, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
Sixty hours out
[edit]Okay, this is going to be the first time in the History of the Republic that Congress has opened on a Sunday. Also, due to covid, the procedures are going to be rather wonky. This means that it is possible that there might be a second ballot or that McCarthy might win, although the latter is less likely. The details of the procedure are already known and should be in the article. Arglebargle79 (talk) 12:36, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
Other candidates
[edit]Though only Pelosi & McCarthy have been nominated, it's still possible for another candidate to get votes. GoodDay (talk) 18:54, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
Total votes cast
[edit]The official tally of votes cast is 427. Three members were "present" and according to House Rules, those are not votes for a person by name.
The tally, according to the House Clerk was Pelosi 216, McCarthy 209, and 2 for Others. 2601:243:CB80:5440:18A2:BF70:3C6B:4AB8 (talk) 22:06, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
- Who were the 3 non-voters, btw? GoodDay (talk) 22:12, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
- Slotkin, Sherrill, and Spanberger. Cczilli (talk) 22:13, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
- The three who voted "present": Spanberger, Sherrill, and Slotkin. Anyone who votes as such does not vote for a person, but lowers the total votes needed for someone to be elected. — Javert2113 (Siarad.|¤) 22:14, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
- Correct, but they aren't "votes cast". The way this table is laid out, including present votes is not past practice and is confusing. They should not be included as votes. Cczilli (talk) 22:18, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
Did all the Justice Democrats vote for Pelosi? GoodDay (talk) 22:20, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
- Yes. Only Lamb and Golden voted for other candidates. Pelosi only lost 5 votes (Lamb, Golden, Sherrill, Spanberger, and Slotkin) all moderate Democrats in tight districts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cczilli (talk • contribs) 22:26, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
We need clarification of course. 427 voted, 3 didn't, But what happened to the other 3? Aren't there suppose to be 433, rather then 430? GoodDay (talk) 22:43, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
How many members attended?
[edit]Did all 433 attend or just 430? If only 427 voted, doesn't that mean 214 is a majority? GoodDay (talk) 23:29, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
This article is a stub
[edit]At the bottom of the article it says "This American elections-related article is a stub. You can help Wikipedia by expanding it." @Drdpw: You do not need to trim and omit relevant details from a WP:STUB article. My edit directly addresses the question raised by GoodDay on this talk page. CowHouse (talk) 17:01, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
Capitalization
[edit]@Woko Sapien: I see you cite MOS:JOBTITLES in your recent moves of these articles, but I feel I should point out this clause of the policy: "They are capitalized only in the following cases: [...] When a formal title for a specific entity (or conventional translation thereof) is addressed as a title or position in and of itself". I feel like referring to the election of Speaker of the House of Representatives, which is a title in and of itself, in reference to a specific entity, applies. Nevermore27 (talk) 02:38, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
- I was being bold, but I probably should've started a discussion instead. You make a fair point; I won't challenge it. --Woko Sapien (talk) 13:53, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
- Never feel bad about being bold! Nevermore27 (talk) 02:14, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
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