Talk:2017 University of Utah Hospital incident

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This is encyclopedic?

This feels more like a NEWSPAPER article than something you'd find in an encyclopedia. I recommend deletion. Theaveng (talk) 17:41, 24 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think it will be deleted. Perhaps you can make recommendations to improve it instead. MartinezMD (talk) 19:44, 24 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Theaveng: Feel free to nominate the article for deletion. This has been nominated for deletion before, though it's possible that consensus could change. ^Falling_Gravity 22:46, 24 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No point reviving the delete debate, but I still hold my original opinion. This is a transient event that, in ten years, people will be saying, "The nurse arrested by a cop? What nurse? I have no idea what you're talking about." It's a passing event for the newspaper, not the encyclopedia. - Theaveng (talk) 16:25, 22 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Are you sure about that? This type of circumstance comes up often. This aspect of the legal system's approach to search and seizure ultimately led to a bill that looks like it will change the state law. This based on the information that is currently posted - not sure if it's gone through the full senate and governor yet.MartinezMD (talk) 18:16, 22 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Well, here it is seven years on and it's still a very interesting case. Are we all going to change our minds in the next three years? Greg Lovern (talk) 16:33, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Phone Call

In the body cam footage it shows Wubbel holding an iPhone. Payne says "She is the one who has told me 'No'." The remote person on that phone says "Yeah, sir, but you're making a big mistake. Right now you are making a huge mistake and are threatening a...". Payne cuts him off with "OK." and immediately makes a two-handed grab for her phone; when she pulls it away he says "No. We're done. We're done.", and then proceeds to arrest Wubbel. News reports at the time say that the person on the phone is a hospital administrator and not Lt. Tracy. The article says it's Lt. Tracy, Payne's supervisor on the phone. SkoreKeep (talk) 04:54, 13 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Follow-up

I believe this article needs an ending of the matter

The article does not say if the arresting officer, or his Lt. (who ordered him to make the arrest) were dismissed (the article I cite below refers to him a a 'former' officer)

And I have read that the arresting officer is not sorry at all...

Former Officer Who Wrongfully Arrested Nurse Wubbles Says He Isn’t Sorry and Plans to Sue

https://nurse.org/articles/utah-police-officer-wrongful-nurse-arrest-lawsuit/

Montalban (talk) 07:39, 1 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It may need a follow up, but it very clearly says "The SLCPD fired Payne and demoted Tracy two ranks to the rank of Officer on October 10, 2017.[19][20]" MartinezMD (talk) 22:48, 1 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

How did Jeff Payne's lawsuit turn out?

How did the former police officer Jeff Payne's wrongful terrmination lawsuit turn out? I don't see anything on it later than 2019, now five years ago. Greg Lovern (talk) 16:32, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]