Talk:2017 Guatemala orphanage fire

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{Current event | disaster}} {{Accident File Name = Image: San José Pinula.jpg | Image_size = The town of San José Pinula was the place of misfortune. | Date = March 8 2017 | Time = Cause = (Guatemala), Guatemala, Guatemala, Guatemala, Deaths = 40 Wounded = 20 Implicated = Ministry of Social Welfare, Government of Guatemala Type involved = Possible negligence | Survivors = Map | Location map | Guatemala | Width = 200px | Align = center | Border = | Pie = Location of San José Pinula in Guatemala | Tag = San José Pinula | Mapa_alternativo = Relief map of Guatemala.jpg | Label_size = | Position = right | Color_etiquette = | Size_brand = }} }}

The 'Tragedy of the Virgen de la Asunción Safe Home' 'was an incendiary catastrophe occurred in this youth hostel, located in the municipality of San José Pinula, in the department of Guatemala [Republic of Guatemala], March 8, 2017. <ref name = bbc> BBC & March 8, 2017 </ ref>

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Background

Since 2010, there have been reports of sexual violence and a possible network of human trafficking in the Safe Home. Due to constant leakage and poor quality of food, the Human Rights Ombudsman (PDH) had requested precautionary measures before the [Inter-American Commission on Human Rights] since November of that year, but they had not been attended to.

On November 2, 2016, the PDH verified the deficiencies in the "Virgen de la Assunción" Safe Home and alerted the following:

• Indications of abuse of adolescents by the monitors.
• Possible signs of recruiting adolescents for trafficking.
• Poor infrastructure
• The recommendations made by the PDH in 2013 had not been complied with.
• Presence of fifteen male adolescents with pending criminal charges who were in the Safe Home because they were under the protection of the State.
• Insufficient security personnel: only two agents of the National Civil Police of Guatemala (PNC) and two private security guards, all men. <Ref name = bochegarcia> Boche, Garcia & March 10, 2017 </ ref>

All these suggestions were not addressed by the competent authorities.

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The Facts

During the night of March 7, when the center housed about seven hundred inmates there was a massive flight; There were not only children and adolescents who were victims of domestic abuse, but also young people who were held for various crimes, especially extortion, belonging to the delinquency gangs Mara Salvatrucha and El Barrio 18 <Ref name = shouts> Boche et al. </ ref> According to the report presented by the director of the Secretariat of Social Welfare, At 2:00 pm when a group of young people climbed the roofs and using metal pieces threatened the guardians and keepers; Taking advantage of the confusion, about eighty-five inmates escaped, which were recaptured mostly by the PNC.
Juan Antonio Villeda Director of Hospital San Juan de Dios ( San Juan de Dios Hospital General San Juan de Dios Hospital]] <ref name = plmurieron> Toc & March 9, 2017 </ ref> }}

The official of Police Station 13 of the National Civil Police, Wilson López, reported that he personally called the president of Guatemala, Jimmy Morales, to warn him of the problems that occurred in the place; Around 10:00 pm on Tuesday 7 March called the president, but Carlos Rodas, director of the Secretariat of Social Welfare, did not turn the necessary instructions to avoid the mutiny that occurred. <Ref name = alerted> Ayala & March 9, 2017 </ ref>

Supposedly, on the morning of March 8, the children tried to protest the sexual and physical abuse they suffered in the Safe Home, taking advantage of the fact that [International Women's Day] was celebrated on that day; But the situation went out of control and fifty-one of them were locked in a room of 4 X 4 m². The chaos was even greater when a fire originated inside the room when some mats were burned < Ref name = cries /> and the young girls were trapped in the room without chances of being rescued in time.

Numerous injured victims were rushed to Guatemala City hospitals with second- and third-degree burns, while at least another nineteen died at the scene because of the severity of their wounds. /> In medical reports, most adolescents were admitted with low blood pressure, massive fluid loss from burns and in an unconscious state. As for the victims in the facilities of the Safe Home, National Institute of Forensic Science (Inacif) certified that the cause of death was carbon monoxide (CO) poisoning.

As of March 10, thirty-seven deceased girls, aged between 14 and 17, had been reported, and the names of the survivors of the fire were still unknown, while relatives sought information on their whereabouts and situation. On the same day, it was also reported that the nine minor survivors who were transferred to the hospital were transferred to the hospital, A house home in Quetzaltenango were in gestation state.

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Consequences

{{Box of quotation | "The necessary measures were taken, including the key, since they were intended not to attack each other." | Jimmy Morales, president of Guatemala, in an interview with [[Fernando del Rincón] ] Of CNN on March 10, 2017 }}

Analysts and human rights defenders condemned the negligence of the state and officials - including the Presidency of the Republic, the Attorney General's Office (PGN) and the Secretariat of Social Welfare (SBS) - for not To have heeded the denunciations presented at the time about abuses of all kinds against the minors detained in the center. <Ref name = horaneg> Lopez & March 9, 2017 </ ref> His part, the PGN, the SBS and the presidential spokesman declared that the responsibility was in the courts of justice.

Bills of the Congress of the Republic of Guatemala requested the dismissal of Carlos Rodas, for direct responsibility and negligence. For its part, the [Public Ministry] An investigation of the facts, based on the assumption that a criminal act occurred that resulted in the murder of the victims burned; The procedure included gathering evidence at the facilities where the tragedy occurred and obtaining the images of thirty-four crames installed in the place. <Ref name = acajabon> [[#CITEREF|]] </ Ref>

The growing number of fatalities - a dead person killed on March 12 - outraged the population of [Guatemala City], who initiated concentrations at the [Plaza de la Constitución (Guatemala City) | Plaza de la Constitución] ] To express their repudiation of what they considered negligence, corruption and ineptitude on the part of Guatemalan government authorities. <Ref name = per11> ElPeriódico & March 11, 2017 </ ref> The same day it was learned that the director of the Secretariat of Social Welfare had submitted his resignation, although it was not accepted by the ruler, and that he had been rooted by the courts to face his responsibilities. Around Of two hundred people walked the streets of the city reading the names and ages of the dead girls to the Plaza where there were more demonstrators; The cries that were most heard were: "it was the State", "it was not an accident, it was an execution" and "the only accident is this President", referring to the president Jimmy Morales. <Ref name = lanacion11 > The Nation & March 11, 2017 </ ref>

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:2017 Guatemala orphanage fire/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: WPCW (talk · contribs) 19:04, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

Introduction

Hello, I will be reviewing this nomination. Please feel free to contact me about any issues during the review. WPCW (talk) 19:04, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

Good Article Review

The review of the article was at the time and date displayed at the end of the review. The review followed the Wikipedia good article criteria,

Well written

Verifiable with no original research

Broad in coverage

Neutral

Stable

Illustrated

Well written

It is an adequately written article with a few issues about clarity, spelling, and adherence to the manual of style.

Some sentences start with a number at the beginning, for example, ‘41 girls, aged between 14 and 17 years old.’. The manual of style recommends avoiding or rewording such sentences, see MOS:NUMNOTES

The translation of a quotation is the 8 March section, paragraph 2, needs clarification. It currently reads, ‘sacrifice so that everyone knows what we lived hered.’

In the reports of abuse section, paragraph 1, a sentence reads, ‘Virgen de la Asunción has a long history of abuse allegations’. Instead of using the term, ‘long history’ specifying the range of the year's people made allegations would be more useful, for example, between 2012 and 2017.

Verifiable with no original research

A check revealed no evidence of plagiarism. The text is mostly verifiable from the use of an appropriate referencing system, with two exceptions,

Clarification of the reference for the sentence, 'Children were separated into different areas of the building based on age and gender’, in the background section, paragraph two.

Clarification of the reference for the sentence, ‘All were between the ages of 14 and 17’, in the 8 March section, paragraph three.

The most significant concern is about the reliability of the sources used to produce the article. The article predominantly uses newspaper articles as a source, and the factual accuracy of any media outlet requires consideration. A particular concern was when source 3, by Goldman wrote in the New Yorker, ‘A woman who lived near the children’s home told the online publication Nómada’. The sentence gave the impression that it was using another newspaper as a source.

A brief internet search revealed that more reliable sources, sometimes by the organisations mentioned in the newspapers existed online. For example,

UNICEF Report

UN High Commissioner for Human Rights

US Government Guatemala 2017 Human Rights Report

European Parliment Proceedings Report

Much improvement would be made to the credibility of the article if it placed less reliance on newspaper reports. A suggestion for improvement is further research is undertaken to replace as many newspaper articles as possible and to substitute them with more reliable sources.

Broad in coverage

The guidelines in WP:RGA is, ‘The article should broadly cover the topic without unnecessary digressions. The article may, and sometimes should, go into detail, but it is not required to be comprehensive.’

Currently, the article does not have sufficient detail to satisfy a casual reader. For example, the article mentions reports of abuse at the orphanage that infers this is linked to the incident but is not explicit in making the connection.

The incident and aftermath, in some parts, are inadequately covered. It provides little information about the Government’s version of the allegations of abuse and the incident. For example, did it produce any Government reports or release any statements? What did the members of the Congress of Guatemala say about the incident when calling for the resignation of Carlos Rodas, the Secretary of Social Welfare, and was this reported in any official congress papers?

The article mentions criminal charges. What was written in the sources about these charges and any responses to them? Is the court case still proceeding? If it is ongoing, what is the current situation? If completed, what evidence did the court hear, and what was the result of the case?

Neutral

The article considers the subject from the viewpoint of the victims, and organisations representing their interests. It has little, if any, government or government official’s views on the allegations of abuse, the incident, or aftermath. The result is the article appears biased. Overcoming the concerns about impartiality may be achieved by considering the range of sources used and broadening the article as previously suggested.

Stable

Since 11 November 2017, a single editor has made all the edits to the article. The article talk page and history show no evidence of deliberations about the content, or any edit war.

On 11 March 2017, the article Virgen de la Asunción fire was created, but on 11 November 2017, a page move changed it to the current title. The move was made without any discussion or rationale for the decision on the talk page but remains uncontested.

Illustrated

The article has two photographs without any copyright issues. The photographs are captioned appropriately.

Summary

The stability and illustrations of the article pose no problems. To meet the well-written criteria, it needs some minor work. Raised during the review are significant concerns about the breadth of coverage, and the potential perception the article is biased, by not including the government’s views or comments about the allegations, incident, and aftermath. Consideration about the type of sources used, and their reliability and credibility will help overcome weaknesses in the breadth of coverage, and the need to incorporate the government’s interpretation of the events.

To meet the good article criteria the article will need much further research and reworking, to identify further credible and reputable sources, breadth of coverage, and to avoid allegations about being biased. Due to the amount of additional work required, holding the article for a short period for minor amendments appears not to be the best way forward.

Regrettably, on this occasion, the article is assessed to have significantly failed the good article assessment criteria in the areas mentioned. The editors are encouraged to re-nominate the article after considering the identified areas of concern. Please feel free to discuss or clarify any part of this report. WPCW (talk) 20:20, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

References

2021 BBC article

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-58076664 Intralexical (talk) 14:16, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

"See also"

Are the 2015 Guatemala landslide and Burning of the Spanish Embassy really relevant to this article? It seems overly broad to just include any geological disaster, and an unrelated act of war from over four decades ago. Intralexical (talk) 14:24, 9 August 2021 (UTC)