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MOVE

Page moved as per general consensus and WP:COMMONNAME.

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I generally agree with Eugen Simion 14 that "Bangkok" would be a better descriptor in the article title. Since there haven't been other bombings in the city this year, Bangkok should be specific enough. The name Ratchaprasong is unfamiliar to most readers, and while it's too early to judge common usage, international news reports all use Bangkok in their headlines. --Paul_012 (talk) 14:51, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Strong support rename. No other attack there this year. All media called this attack Bangkok bombing. - EugεnS¡m¡on(14) ® 14:55, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The above is wrong - there was a double bomb attack at the Siam BTS station in February this year. [1] Prioryman (talk) 15:12, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

However, it was a minor incident, with only one injured. - EugεnS¡m¡on(14) ® 15:30, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with the rename as well. All other media has been calling this as Bangkok blast Yienshawn (talk) 16:41, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Most media are calling this a Bangkok bomb attack. Although there was a bomb attack earlier this year, it wasn't that significant, and definitely not as significant as compared to this. TheInfernoX (talk) 18:01, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Pinging article creator Cantab12. --Paul_012 (talk) 18:04, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not got a strong opinion. It's definitely not the first bombing in Bangkok this year and the current title is precise but I guess "Bangkok bombing" is catchy.Cantab12 (talk) 18:34, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose renaming. As pointed out above, this isn't the first attack this year, so arguments about significance are misplaced. Prioryman (talk) 19:55, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Not heard of Ratchaprasong and not heard any media or news outlets using it. Should either be "2015 Bangkok bombing" or "Erawan Shrine bombing". --TBM10 (talk) 21:08, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support. I've not heard of Ratchaprasong until I came to this page and I stayed across the road from the bomb site 4 times in the last 6 months. The district name Chidlom or the city name, Bangkok, would be more appropriate. Thepm (talk) 02:57, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support. WP:COMMONNAME.--RioHondo (talk) 03:09, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support. per above. Inter&anthro (talk) 03:13, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Since another bomb happend few hours ago at Sathon Pier (7 km from Ratchprasong Intersection), I believe the name should be changed to Bangkok. --Manop - TH (talk) 08:55, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support. As all media are referring to this as Bangkok Bombing.Whiteguru (talk) 09:42, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support. I've visited Bangkok seven times and have never heard of "Ratchaprasong". This is clearly the only significant bombing in Bangkok this year, so "Bangkok" is sufficient. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Newzild (talk • contribs) 01:09, 19 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I will close this discussion. General consensus seems to be to move this page. TheInfernoX (talk) 17:04, 19 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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I've moved the page, as there seems to be consensus that this attack far outweighs the February event. Not sure if the name should be in plural, seeing as there's been more than one explosion. --Paul_012 (talk) 03:14, 19 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Why no picture for the accident ?

Why there don't have any picture for the accident ? Hope some people can upload the photos--Wing1990hk (talk) 12:37, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Got the accident photos already. I believe it took some times before people can find some free pictures to upload to Wikipedia. Chongkian (talk) 00:45, 20 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Uploaded the sketch suspect picture! Enjoy! The Pancake of Heaven! (talk) 13:30, 22 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Pictures

I have some pictures I took of the shrine when I visited last year, including one from the Skytrain walkway that shows where the bomb was placed. Will upload that one -- not sure where to put it in the article. Antandrus (talk) 14:23, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

- It seems that accident photos is more important....--Wing1990hk (talk) 15:53, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I won't bother then. If you are there you can take a picture of it. Antandrus (talk) 20:36, 18 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

VOA News is a US government entity that produced this original video. This video is in the public domain. If it is important to add more photos, they can be taken from this public domain video and should be loaded to Commons using PD-USGov-VOA licensing tag. Z22 (talk) 06:44, 19 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I've uploaded a VOA photo to the commons and added it to the article. -Zanhe (talk) 21:53, 19 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Death toll

The article claims 25 people have died but the BBC reference only confirms 20. I haven't seen any news site claiming 25 - that number seems to have been arrived by various people adding individuals and then adjusting the total accordingly. It is likely that some have been counted twice - for example one British citizen lived in Hong Kong and therefore maybe quoted for both countries... The Bangkok Post claims "at least 20 dead & more than 125 injured"^[1] - I think we should stick with this. Cantab12 (talk) 22:41, 19 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Cantab12: I agree. Most recent news articles report 20 deaths. -Zanhe (talk) 22:54, 19 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Zanhe: Can we not have an edit war. Cantab12 (talk) 23:52, 19 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

5 Malaysians died see ref^[2] Cantab12 (talk) 23:52, 19 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Cantab12: You added the Bangkok Post ref that revised the death toll down to 20, and I replaced unreferenced nationality counts (10 Thais is obviously too many) whose sum exceeded 20 with the NYT numbers which add exactly to 20. I don't see why you found it necessary to revert that. Looks like one of the previously unidentified death has now been identified as Malaysian, so let's update that. -Zanhe (talk) 23:56, 19 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I've updated the Malaysian figure. -Zanhe (talk) 00:01, 20 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Vivian Chan Wing-yan was a British national and a resident of HK. A British national was killed in the attack. Why is not not reflected in the table? Zanhe, you removed it without mentioning why.--109.149.122.34 (talk) 00:03, 20 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hong Kong citizens may hold either the Chinese SAR passport or the British Overseas passport. If Vivian Chan were to be listed as British, the other then needed to be added to the Chinese total, causing double counting and unnecessary confusion. -Zanhe (talk) 00:10, 20 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Right you are, thank you for explaining that. --109.149.122.34 (talk) 00:19, 20 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

^ "Bomb toll revised: 20 dead, 125 injured". Bangkok Post. Retrieved 19 August 2015.
^ "Bangkok blast: Fifth Malaysian victim confirmed". The Star Malaysia. 19 August 2015. Retrieved 19 August 2015.

Prior incidents

I think this should be moved down the page a bit. It appears before the main details are discussed and it can be misleading. Kortoso (talk) 16:30, 21 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It provides a background to the current incident and therefore I think it should be at the start/top of the article. Cantab12 (talk) 16:32, 21 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Cantab12, it provides insight to the current event and the placement seems proper.Jurisdicta (talk) 06:32, 22 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Location of the explosion

The explosion happened inside the shrine, not outside. The first sentence needs correction.

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Volker — Preceding unsigned comment added by 183.88.254.137 (talk) 17:12, 21 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

DYK proposal?

The non-Thai victims of the 2015 Bangkok bombing are from 6 countries - Malaysia, China, Hong Kong, Indonesia and Singapore - but they ALL are ethnic Chinese? 98.112.79.59 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 10:44, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Turkish connection?

Turkish connection is very tenuous. We need to be sure we are not spreading speculation as "facts on Wikipedia". Kortoso (talk) 16:18, 31 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

What about the Thai female who is living in Turkey and was mentioned by police as being somehow connected to the bombings? 2601:600:8500:B2D9:459:5F68:2141:3B04 (talk) 10:10, 26 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Facial hair?

The picture of the person who confessed to planting the first bomb has facial hair, but the CCTV stills do not show him with facial hair. How long does it take to grow facial hair that long? 2601:600:8500:B2D9:459:5F68:2141:3B04 (talk) 10:04, 26 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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[1] "Bomb toll revised: 20 dead, 125 injured". Bangkok Post. Retrieved 19 August 2015.

[msn_malaysian-2] "Bangkok blast: Fifth Malaysian victim confirmed". The Star Malaysia. 19 August 2015. Retrieved 19 August 2015.

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