Talk:2014 World Snooker Championship/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: BennyOnTheLoose (talk · contribs) 00:24, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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Happy to discuss, or be challenged on, any of my comments. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 00:24, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Copyvio and plagiarism check

• I checked all matches showing above 4% on Earwig's Copyvio detector. No concerns.

Sources

• https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/snooker/10805587/Snooker-World-Championship-2014-Ronnie-OSullivan-rockets-into-final-with-17-7-victory-over-Barry-Hawkins.html is a bare url.
  • Fixed Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:44, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Format

• "The tournament features 32 participants" - as this section is just about the 2014 tournament, should this be "The tournament featured 32 participants"?
  • Done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:44, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Prize fund

• Can delink £.
  • Done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:44, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
• Consider breaking the prize money into main event and qualifying sub-sections, to align with the description in the format paragraph.
  • It does already on my screen. I much prefer to use div col, rather than put in strict columns for things like this. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:44, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Tournament summary

Qualifying

• The Wales online source for "Four former world champions lost in the qualifying rounds" only mentions Williams, so the citation should be moved to later in the paragraph.(Or can be removed here, as there are already two sources for that.)
  • moved Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:44, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
• "a match he was required to win" - I suggest "a match Davis needed to win"
  • Agreed - changed Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:44, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

First round

• "Murphy won the frame 65–49 and match." - how about "Murphy took the frame 65–49 to win the match."?
  • Done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:44, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
• "being unable to set a new record" - how about "and so failed to set a new record"
  • Done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:44, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Second round

• I don't think "in-a-row" needs to be hyphenated, but tell me if I'm wrong.
  • I always get these wrong. I can't get it into my mind correctly. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:44, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
• "only completed seven of the scheduled eight frames in the first session of their match" - presumably because time ran out, I suggest stating the reason if possible.
  • Added Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:55, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

Quarter-finals

• Looks fine.

Semi-finals

• "O'Sullivan played Hawkins contested the first semi-final.." - slight reword required. I changed it to " O'Sullivan and Hawkins contested the first semi-final.."
  • Someone already did this one Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:44, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
• The "Rampant Ronnie races into final" source is now credited to Hector Nunns on the live site, but to David Hendon (as per the reference here) on the archived copy. I don't know if any change is required for this.
  • The original is what I'm citing, can't see why this would need a change. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:44, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Final

• "The third session concluded after just six of the scheduled eight frames" - presumably because time ran out, I suggest stating the reason if possible.
  • Source says Eight frames were scheduled for the session but it was a measure of the attritional nature of the action that they could only fit six in before the interval. - so you could infer a few things, but this borders on OR. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:55, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
• "127 and 87— came consecutively" is not supported by the source used here. Also - were they in consecutive visits, or just in consecutive frames?
  • reworded Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:44, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Main draw

• I think "Below is the full results" should be "Below are the full results"
  • Agreed Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:49, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
• The table for the final scores is acceptable, but if it could be in a format more like the 1985 World Snooker Championship one, I think it would look better and be easier for readers to see what happened (e.g. if there was the frame score at the start and end of sessions).
  • Indeed. I am planning on FACing this one eventually, so I'd change it before then. It's quite a bit of work to change to that format! Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:49, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Qualifying

• Could put "Round 1" etc in bold like the format used for main draw.
  • done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:49, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
• "The qualifying stage of the World Championship was the first snooker event held at the venue." - could be just "This was the first snooker event held at the venue ."
  • done Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:49, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Images

• Photos all fine. I'm still checking about the use of the logo.
  • Logo should meet our limits on originality. If it doesn't, let me know and I'll upload a fair use poster. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:49, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
    • I agree that it is OK. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 23:05, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

Lead

• "38th consecutive year that the World Snooker Championship had been held at the Crucible" - not in body of the article; unsourced.
  • added and sourced in body. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:46, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
• "..and was the last ranking event.." doesn't read quite right to me - how about "..and the tournament was the last ranking event.."?
  • Changed Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:31, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
• "having won the 2013 event defeating" is probably OK but I prefer "having won the 2013 event by defeating"
  • Changed Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:31, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
• I'll defer to your superior knowledge around triple crown and terminology, but should it be "also completing his Triple Crown" rather than "also completing the Triple Crown"?
  • I disagree. Common wording would be to "complete the Triple Crown", or it sounds like he has his own Triple Crown. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:31, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
• "Neil Robertson secured …" - how about "Neil Robertson compiled …"
  • Changed Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:31, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
• "tournament, a 140. Robertson scored" could maybe be "tournament, a 140, and scored"
  • Changed Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:31, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
• Consider mentioning in the lead that there was a qualifying event.
  • added Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:31, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

• I've replied to the above, BennyOnTheLoose Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:55, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Thanks, Lee Vilenski, I'm happy with all of the responses, and that the article meets GA standards. Well done! BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 23:07, 29 June 2020 (UTC)