Talk:2014 FIFA World Cup qualification (AFC)
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Official Draw
[edit]When will the official draw for 2014 FIFA World Cup Qualification (AFC) start?? Andy4190
The draw will start on 30 march. Uishaki
I have question, does rank 5-29 played in the first round? would the first round consist 38 matches (Home/Away), just like in 2010 FIFA World Cup Qualification ?? Andy4190
Syria eliminated
[edit]http://sana.sy/ara/11/2011/08/19/364803.htm
Says Syria have been kicked out (and replaced by Tajikistan) because they played an ineligible player in the last round. Of, course, if could just be easier not to play matches in Syria at the moment. Nothing official from FIFA yet however. Jlsa (talk) 08:12, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
- Syria have gradually been written out of the FIFA database during the last hour. Tajikistan are now showing up as playing in Group C (for a while it listed both of them in a 5 team group), the results page now notes both matches being awarded 3–0, and Tajikistan, not Syria, are listed in the overview page of World Cup fixtures (and in the last 5 minutes also on the Asia page). Looks ominous for Syria. But, no official word from FIFA (which is like putting the cart before the horse). Jlsa (talk) 14:22, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
- More info here. It seems to contain errors (the match wouldn't be 2–0 surely, and both matches are affected, not just one). FIFA possibly waiting for the appeal mentioned. Jlsa (talk) 14:26, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
- Uzbek Federation (here) says they are playing Tajikistan and there can be no appeal. If this counts as official then I think the updating can take place. Jlsa (talk) 14:31, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
- More info here. It seems to contain errors (the match wouldn't be 2–0 surely, and both matches are affected, not just one). FIFA possibly waiting for the appeal mentioned. Jlsa (talk) 14:26, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
Shouldn't the stats for the two games (i.e. goals scored) in the games between Syria and Tajikistan be removed if the games were forfeited?
Goal Scorers and Syria
[edit]Should Syria's goals in the first round be listed in the goalscoring table since they were forfeited? There was a Tajikistan own goal, but that goal doesn't count in the score, so should that be removed? I'm not sure how to proceed. JedG (talk) 01:55, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
- I don't think the goal scorers change - just the score. The FIFA match reports don't change the goal scorers list. Jlsa (talk) 02:10, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
Australia
[edit]Shouldn't it be mentioned that Australia is the only Oceanic Team to participate in AFC qualification for the WC along with some sources when this decision was made? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.118.88.113 (talk) 02:33, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
- Australia is a member of the AFC just like all the other teams competing in this tournament. Last time around it was mentioned that it was the first time they had competed in the AFC qualification since changing confederations, so it's no longer a new thing. Jlsa (talk) 02:36, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
Flag for All Teams
[edit]I don't understand why the teams that doesn't participate to the qualification, in that case Brunei, Bhutan and Guam, don't deserve to have their flag next to the country name!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rafa1985 (talk • contribs) 04:16, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
- Because they appear in a sentence, which is text. You can't "say" the flag so the flag shouldn't appear in the sentence. The other flags appear in a table (so they aren't text, they are tablulated). If you allow that here, why shouldn't you allow something like "The final of the World Cup saw Spain defeat Netherlands 1–0"? Jlsa (talk) 04:22, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
Oman/Myanmar
[edit]Is there a reference stating FIFA awarded the first leg 3-0? -Koppapa (talk) 19:57, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
- Here Jlsa (talk) 00:35, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
- Yes the match statistics say it has been awarded. But shouldn't there be news, or a reason, why it has been awarded? Fifa talks about a 2-0 after the second leg. -Koppapa (talk) 00:57, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
- You would hope so. There are actually 4 (or is it 5) qualifying matches where FIFA have "awarded" the result. They have not provide any reasoning - yet it would be incorrect (surely) to say the result was 2:0 when FIFA's database says 3:0 - because we link to that database results as our "source". Jlsa (talk) 01:39, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
- Well i changed the link. 2–0 is backed by the AFC and all secondary sources. Unless there is a source at FIFA directly stating leg 1 was awarded, it shouldn't be changed again. -Koppapa (talk) 18:42, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
- Given the FIFA disciplinary committee only met (to decide such issues) on 17 February it's hardly a surprise other sources aren't over this (why would they care - most never changed the third round 2010 qualifiers involving Singapore that were changed months after the event). The AFC hasn't updated the tables for the 3rd round groups (they still have everybody on 5 games) and it's 4 days later (will you be reversing those edits too?). Why aren't you applying the same logic to the four CONCACAF match results similarly changed by the 17 February disciplinary committee meeting? It is the "FIFA" World Cup after all - and their database (and the list of match results for the FIFA World Cup) now show the match as 3:0. (And the AFC list also shows no result for Myanmar - Oman at all, but apparently that's not an issue for you) Jlsa (talk) 10:09, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
- It's strange that FIFA doesn't openly announce those awarded matches? Those CONCACAF matches were all awarded on 17 February? Is there some kind of news with all things decided by the commitee? All i found was this: http://www.fifa.com/aboutfifa/organisation/bodies/news/newsid=1585615/index.html . I didn't knew of CONCACAF or the 2010 awarded matches, i thought it was a strage mess-up by FIFA. Guess it should be reverted back again, allthough i'd really like to know the reason behind the awarding. -Koppapa (talk) 10:58, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
- I've reverted. Thanks for pointing, Jlsa. Maybe someone finds out the reason, if not at FIFA maybe some Omanian site. -Koppapa (talk) 07:32, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
- It's strange that FIFA doesn't openly announce those awarded matches? Those CONCACAF matches were all awarded on 17 February? Is there some kind of news with all things decided by the commitee? All i found was this: http://www.fifa.com/aboutfifa/organisation/bodies/news/newsid=1585615/index.html . I didn't knew of CONCACAF or the 2010 awarded matches, i thought it was a strage mess-up by FIFA. Guess it should be reverted back again, allthough i'd really like to know the reason behind the awarding. -Koppapa (talk) 10:58, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
- Given the FIFA disciplinary committee only met (to decide such issues) on 17 February it's hardly a surprise other sources aren't over this (why would they care - most never changed the third round 2010 qualifiers involving Singapore that were changed months after the event). The AFC hasn't updated the tables for the 3rd round groups (they still have everybody on 5 games) and it's 4 days later (will you be reversing those edits too?). Why aren't you applying the same logic to the four CONCACAF match results similarly changed by the 17 February disciplinary committee meeting? It is the "FIFA" World Cup after all - and their database (and the list of match results for the FIFA World Cup) now show the match as 3:0. (And the AFC list also shows no result for Myanmar - Oman at all, but apparently that's not an issue for you) Jlsa (talk) 10:09, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
- Well i changed the link. 2–0 is backed by the AFC and all secondary sources. Unless there is a source at FIFA directly stating leg 1 was awarded, it shouldn't be changed again. -Koppapa (talk) 18:42, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
- You would hope so. There are actually 4 (or is it 5) qualifying matches where FIFA have "awarded" the result. They have not provide any reasoning - yet it would be incorrect (surely) to say the result was 2:0 when FIFA's database says 3:0 - because we link to that database results as our "source". Jlsa (talk) 01:39, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
- Yes the match statistics say it has been awarded. But shouldn't there be news, or a reason, why it has been awarded? Fifa talks about a 2-0 after the second leg. -Koppapa (talk) 00:57, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
On the next matchday... ?
[edit]Is it okay to add the "on the next matchday" sections to the group matches at this point? It should be fairly straightforward to determine who needs what to advance. Avenger42 (talk) 00:39, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
- Apparently it's "shit" per User:Dr._Vicodine, so I won't bother. Avenger42 (talk) 01:56, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
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