Talk:2013–14 FA Cup

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League tier in brackets format

Just thought I'd add my comment from the talk page of the 2012–13 FA Cup article (which only had one reply), which also applies here.

What's with this new convention, this is the second year for which this appears and in fact I do not see this anywhere else at all, in any cup competitions around the world. It also looks confusing (for a newcomer), what with the score right next to it, as there is no explanantion whatsoever about what these numbers in brackets mean. In fact, it is usually used (on TV, internet, etc.) to indicate a first leg score. Who decided this format? Where is the discussion before it reached consensus? Why has it only been done for 2 years if this so useful? Did anyone bring up any objections to the previous format? Which other cup competition article in the whole of wikipedia, on any sport whatsoever, follows this convention? I will remove it unless anyone has any objections here. Feudonym (talk) 04:20, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I agree this should have been discussed and agreed first (BTW i was not responsible) and an explanation offered within the article, but i can offer an explanation. The numbers in brackets reflect the level within the English football league system at which that team competes. This could help the observer by giving them a sense of the difficulty of the tie for the lower placed team and how much of an upset it was if they actually beat a side higher in the system. This does seem to be a peculiarity of the English Football fan though. The FA Cup at every round (until the semi-finals) is a single leg tie with a replay only necessary in the event of a draw. The score form the drawn is not carried forward to the replay which is played as yet another one off match. In the event of another draw after 90 minutes this is decide by the score after a further 30 minutes Extra Time or penalty shoot out if necessary. I agree that this convention is not widespread, but i have seen it on some other football fans sites. The problem with this happening now is that it would take a lot of research to back fill every season. I would actually be in favour of this, if it weren't for the huge task of back filling. Maybe better summaries of cup shocks in each round would be more appropriate.Rimmer1993 (talk) 16:59, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've replied on the older talk page and humbly suggest that the conversation be constrained to there, so we don't get disjointed conversations about this.PsyMar (talk) 05:52, 10 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

So apparently, seeing it "on some other football fans sites" is enough to start a new convention on Wikipedia... Well anyway, maybe one of you who thinks it is so useful can actually mention this in the article? Because otherwise they are just random numbers in brackets. I could do this myself but I won't because personally I think it looks ridiculous. Feudonym (talk) 08:30, 27 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]