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WikiProject Cue sports to-do list:

Here are some tasks awaiting attention:

Article requests : Lots of high-priority articles need to be created:

List of wanted articles...

Games: A bunch of high-priority game redlinks, e.g. American four-ball billiards (redirs to Four-ball billiards but not specifically covered there)
"Legends": Edwin Kelly, Charlie Peterson (pool player) (all BCA Hall of Famers); George Franklin Slosson, Maurice Daly (billiards player), Frank Ives, George Butler Sutton [not George H. Sutton, the one with no hands]
Male pool bios: Hsia Hui-kai
Female pool bios:
Male three-cushion bios: Dion Nelin & Jozef Bel Philipoom
Female carom bios: Aygen Berk Saygıner
Aristic pool bios: Nick Nikolaidis, Mark Dimick,Sebastian Giumelli, Eric Yow
Unranked in current pool but notable: Mike Eufemia, Shannon Daulton, Jimmy Reid (pool player) [speed pool champ], var. Mosconi Cup players
Non-player figures: Mitch Laurance, George Fels
Five-pins bios: Gustavo Zito
Organizations: Joss Tour
Events: WPA World Nine-ball Championships (pre-1997), BCA Open Nine-ball Championship, World 14.1 Continuous Championship, International Challenge of Champions (pool)
Media and misc.: Iwan Simonis (leading billiard cloth maker), Joss Cues (major cue mfr.), The Baron and the Kid [Johnny Cash film], Ultimate Pool Party [TV show]
And: everyone/thing listed at WP:CUEGAMES, WP:CUEEVENTS, WP:CUEORGS, WP:CUEBIOS, & WP:CUEMISC. Also a Cue sports world records article (many can be pulled from bio articles like Geet Sethi, Guinness Book will provide others, and so will BCA and other orgs., websites and books like Shamos 1999).
Meta: Outline of cue sports (OoK; cf. [1], etc.) – presently redirects to Cue sports, but this is not an OoK page.
Internal pages: Something like: [2][3]). Such pages are not fluff, but can be good places to find recruits for the project, possibly including subject-matter experts, especially if cross-referenced to the project. Also, Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Cue sports (cf. [4][5][6]).

Cleanup : Thomas Engert, Marlon Manalo
Copyedit : Jonni Fulcher
Expand : Cue sports techniques#Carom shots (section needs to exist), Straight pool, Alfredo de Oro,Jeanette Lee (pool player)
NPOV : Andy Segal (major WP:COI and WP:V issues, too), Jose Parica (it's bad!); Efren Reyes, Thomas Engert, Dennis Orcollo, Dick Jaspers
Photo : Category:Wikipedia requested photographs of cue sports and Category:Wikipedia requested photographs of cue sports people
Split : List of World Eight-ball Champions - blackball stuff needs own article {draft split from real eight-ball one (draft).
Stubs : loads of players in Category:Cue sports stubs
Update : Arcade game (link to bagatelle, bar billiards, etc.)
Verify : Cue stick (mostly WP:OR!), Frank Taberski (has major fact conflict between BCA & NYT sourcing), Russian pyramid, add sources to Unreferenced BLPs
Wikify : Chicago (pool), Jonni Fulcher
Other :
- Create timelines, both textual and graphical. See link for various guidelines and examples. We need an overall one for cue sports generally, and more specific ones as we drill down into more specific topics (timeline of nine-ball, timeline of Willie Mosconi's career, etc.).
- Form sections: Exhibition game needs section on cue sports; could later form a new article with "Main article..." xref to it. What other general articles need cue sports sections?
- CopyVio rewrite:
- Clarify: What is the "continuous pool" listed above "14.1 continuous" at Alfredo DeOro?
- Delete or defend:
- Move/Rename (and Redirect):
- Redirect:
- Unorphan:
- Ensure: that rules discussions in game articles & the Billiard techniques article do not violate WP:NOT#IINFO.
- Help fix: WP:CUEBIOS#Pool players (women) is nearly empty!
- Help develop: the lists of WP:CUEORGS and WP:CUEEVENTS
- Images: improve articles with images from commons; create pics and add them to commons as GFDL/CC-by/PD.
- Add: {{Sport overview}} to main articles of cue games that are real sports; medal table tags where they apply (see Ding Junhui for example).
- Insert: Cue sports events (tournament results, etc.) into the "year in sports" categories (e.g. 1965 in sports), using {{subst:Cue sports heading}} if that year doesn't have one yet.
- Change:
- Replace:
- Some day: Seek Featured Topic status.
- Plunder: the French article; it does have some interesting tidbits, structure and images. Check out de.wikipedia, etc., as well.
- Inter-wiki: Improve simple:Billiards and foreign-language key articles.

See also: Snooker to-do list

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Reviewer: Mike Christie (talk · contribs) 01:23, 24 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'll review this. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 01:23, 24 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Images are appropriately tagged.

What makes the following reliable sources?
- ~~snooker.org -- see this discussion; is there any more recent discussion approving of it?~~
  - That's quite an old discussion. I've successfully used this citation at many FACs, specifically pointing to being an award winning statistical site. According to the about us page, they were in Snooker Scene (and won website of the year in 2011), BilliardsDigest (under a different name), and commented on in the Independent). It also suggests they won a Britannia Internet Use Guide, and were linked by the BBC Education Web Guide. If the page was being used to cite controversial BLP material, I'd probably agree that it doesn't hold up, but it's generally used to cite brackets, draws and times, which otherwise would have to be cited to the event itself (which is less than ideal). Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 08:26, 24 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    OK -- I think for statistics it should be fine. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 11:00, 24 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- ~~globalsnookercentre.co.uk~~
- I've removed this one, it wasn't citing anything that wasn't otherwise cited. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:02, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
FN51 is tagged as a permanent dead link. For GA that's OK but you may want to replace it anyway.
"An audience of 3.93 million viewers watched the final session in Great Britain with 2.03 million watching the third session of the final": confusingly different uses of "final"; I had to read this a couple of times. I think this means 3.93 million viewers watched the final session of the final.
- Reworded to say fourth. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:20, 31 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
"The event was organised by the World Professional Billiards and Snooker Association." I was going to suggest "The 2011 event was..." but presumably the WPBSA has organized it for years? So perhaps add that to the previous sentence?
- They've run the event since 1969, and the event has run since 1927. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:20, 31 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  OK; I don't think it's necessary to change it so struck. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 01:42, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
"This was the first time six century breaks had been made in a match at the event, and for a best of 25 frames match": what does the second part of this mean? Does it mean it's the first time six century breaks had been made in a 25 frames match at any event? If so I'd clarify.
- Yeah, that's exactly what it means. I'll see if I can reword. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:06, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
~~Suggest adding a word or to to explain what the News of the World allegations were about -- e.g. "allegations of match-fixing the previous year".~~
- Added. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:58, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
~~The qualifying rounds surprised me -- looks like new players joined at each qualifying round, presumably based on their ranking? Could we add a brief explanation of how these rounds worked?~~
- That is exactly how it works, but I can't find a specific source that states this for this specific year Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:58, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  Struck; it's correct as written; it's just the explanation we can't source.

-- Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 12:05, 24 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Earwig is clean; the match it shows is to a mirror. Spotchecks:

FN 26 cites "The first round was played from 16 to 21 April as the best of 19 frames held over two sessions": technically this is a problem because this shows the planned format, not what actually happened. I'm not going to treat this as a failed verification on that basis but a cite after the event would be better. However, I don't see where it states that the first round was specifically those dates -- am I missing something?
- Yeah, that would be nice. I think you are missing that the dates cover which matches are played on what dates (on the second page). Matches 1-16 (the first round) are all between 16-21. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:27, 10 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  I did miss that. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 18:29, 10 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
FN 67 cites "Higgins took a 13–12 lead after the third session of the final, which he won 6–2": verified.
FN 11 cites "In 1927, the first world championship was won by Joe Davis. The event's final took place in Camkin's Hall, Birmingham, England": verified.

-- Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 01:59, 8 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Last issue resolved; passing. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 18:29, 10 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]