Talk:2011 Atlantic Hockey men's ice hockey tournament

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Unified Naming Convention

I noticed that for the 2011 Men's Ice Hockey Conference Tournaments, the articles have different naming conventions. Here is 2011 Atlantic Hockey Tournament. We also have 2011 ECAC Hockey Men's Ice Hockey Tournament and 2011 Hockey East Men's Ice Hockey Tournament. In the ECAC one seems a bit redundant, but we need to determine if we want to include the conference name and "Men's Ice Hockey Tournament" even if the Conference name includes the word "Hockey" thus making it obvious it's a hockey tournament. Because we do for Hockey East but not For Atlantic Hockey. Note: I am posting this on the other two talk pages as well. Smartyllama (talk) 22:16, 6 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Article titles are to be as concise as possible. Both "Ice Hockey" and "Men's" are unnecessary for this article, although the gender is necessary for both Hockey East and ECAC Hockey. Powers ^T 00:25, 7 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

So should we move the other two to 2011 Hockey East Men's Tournament and 2011 ECAC Men's Ice Hockey Tournament? Smartyllama (talk) 04:22, 7 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well that would be my personal preference (with the caveat that it should be 2011 ECAC Hockey Men's Tournament), but there are a lot more articles affected than just those two. Previous years, the women's leagues, and the other three hockey conferences also have the same conventions. I don't think there's any hurry, though. Powers ^T 13:09, 7 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I would say keep things how they are. In the US and Canada "hockey" generally refers to "ice hockey" but in many other parts it refers to a number of other sports with hockey in the title. The "Men's Ice Hockey Tournament" keeps it consistent with many previous conference and past and current national tournament articles, i.e 2011 NCAA Division I Men's Ice Hockey Tournament. Even though some conferences don't sponsor both men's and women's hockey the gender specs are used because they could add the opposite sport at some point. Conversely a conference can drop sponsoring a gender such as College Hockey America, but nothing stops the CHA from readding men's hockey if interest exists. The naming convention "[team/conference name] [gender] [sport]" in the title is used NCAA-wide with sports such as college hockey where the NCAA sponsors both genders unlike single gender college sports like football, softball, and baseball. I've already noticed one red link linking to 2011 Atlantic Hockey Men's Ice Hockey Tournament and there maybe others. Bhockey10 (talk) 02:28, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've fixed the redlink. Yes, it's possible Atlantic Hockey could add a women's division in the future, but there will never be a 2011 Atlantic Hockey women's tournament, so there's no need to disambiguate. Likewise, there will never be a 2011 Atlantic Hockey basketball tournament. Powers ^T 13:29, 26 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]