Talk:2002 Football League Third Division play-off final

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2002 Football League Third Division play-off final has been listed as one of the Sports and recreation good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.

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Date	Process	Result
March 8, 2021	Good article nominee	Listed
September 14, 2021	Good topic candidate	Promoted
January 24, 2024	Good topic removal candidate	Demoted
A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on March 24, 2021. The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the 2002 Football League Third Division play-off Final* was one of the last matches shown on the ITV Sport Channel?*
Current status: Good article

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by Eddie891 (talk) 00:56, 20 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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... that the 2002 Football League Third Division play-off Final was one of the last matches shown on the ITV Sport Channel?

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/After Us, or the World as it Might Be

5x expanded by The Rambling Man (talk). Self-nominated at 21:17, 3 March 2021 (UTC).[reply]

New enough and long enough (5x expanded right before nomination), well-sourced and neutrally written. Earwig's tool only returned direct quotes which are appropriately sourced. The hook is cited (I verifed with ref 15), neutral, and interesting. @The Rambling Man: It looks like you also used this QPQ for 1997 Football League Second Division play-off Final — can you confirm whether another one is needed? Everything else looks good! DanCherek (talk) 16:13, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oops, good spot, try Template:Did you know nominations/Lisa Martin (rugby union) instead. Cheers. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 16:15, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Great! QPQ done, all else looks good to go, so approving. DanCherek (talk) 16:17, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:2002 Football League Third Division play-off Final/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Usernameunique (talk · contribs) 00:12, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox

Isn't attendance info normally included?
Done and added to the summary too. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 00:43, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Route to the final

a header from Stuart Wardley levelled the match — What minute?
Done. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 00:43, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
a potential equalising goal from Onandi Lowe disallowed — Why?
Added, a foul. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 00:43, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
who turned scored — Something is off here.
Added missing word. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 00:43, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Both sides missed one of their first five spot kicks but Ritchie Humphreys' strike hit the crossbar. — The "but" is confusing. Was Humphreys the only miss?
Rephrased. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 00:43, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure this is right. Looking at the source, each side appears to have made 3 of its first four chances ("Mike Duff put the Robins fourth effort wide of the post, leaving the scores all-square"). Then, Humphreys missed the fifth (in which case Hartlepool would have been 3 of 5 on penalty kicks), and though it's not mentioned in the source, Cheltenham (either right before or right after Humphreys) must have made its fifth attempt. --Usernameunique (talk) 01:20, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I've added another source: both sides missed one of their first five, per the existing source, then Cheltenham scored their sixth before Humphreys missed his. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 09:01, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Despite appearing to have crossed the goalline, the shot was adjudged to have missed — Meaning the refs might have blown the call, a la this one?
Yes, this was before goalline technology, HawkEye etc. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 00:43, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Background

Alsop was Cheltenham's top scorer — This is his first mention, so his full name and a link should be provided.
Added. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 00:43, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Cheltenham opted to wear their third-choice kit which was yellow in preference to their "unlucky" orange strip. — I don't see this in the source. And is "strip" the right word?
Added missing ref and "strip" is fine. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 00:43, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The new source mentions a man of this match, a distinction which appears to be included in some other similar article. Worth adding here? --Usernameunique (talk) 01:20, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The problem with MOTM is that journalists often nominate their own. And they're often different. But as it's the BBC and as I haven't seen conflicting claims, I'll add it in. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 09:01, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Details

This doesn't make it clear whom Jon Brady and Brett Angell came in for, though it's not a big deal.
"'replace Gray and Partridge" seems clear enough. If you're worried about who replaced who, you can add "respectively" but it's just replaced in the order of the prose. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 00:43, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, the text makes it clear. I just meant that to the extent this is treated as a stand-alone section, it's not clear—all it says is that two people came on in the 69th minute and two people came off. --Usernameunique (talk) 01:21, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Post-match

Cheltenham became the eleventh consecutive team to win a final at the Millennium Stadium after being allocated the North End dressing room — Is the assignment random, or is it based on standings, etc.?
Random, coin toss I think. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 00:43, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

References

#11, 12, 14, 16 — A paid subscription is not, in fact, required to view the clippings.
Done, removed. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 00:43, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Usernameunique cheers, all addressed/responded to. Thanks for the review! The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 00:43, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, The Rambling Man. Three responses above. --Usernameunique (talk) 01:25, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Usernameunique done I think. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 09:01, 7 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Rambling Man, looks good. Passing now. --Usernameunique (talk) 02:55, 8 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]