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Incident section wrong link.

Currently the link of Vadim Nurzhitz Rank (OR-4) leads to Oregon's 4th congressional district however it should be a link to NATO Ranks like in Avrahamis case. 217.91.168.125 (talk) 14:49, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The link for Vadim Nurzhitz's rank directs to the page for Oregon's fourth Congressional distrtict rather than to Ranks and insignia of NATO armies enlisted as intended and as is done earlier in the same sentence. The link should be removed or corrected. 2601:588:4201:6460:971:AF7B:CFC4:FE2E (talk) 05:35, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done Bunnypranav (talk) 09:28, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Occupation

@OdNahlawi: [1] Why did you remove mention of the occupation from the lede? Makeandtoss (talk) 09:33, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is in the infobox OdNahlawi (talk) 07:32, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@OdNahlawi: There is no WP guideline saying that what is in the infobox cannot be part of the lede. Please restore it if that is the only reason. Makeandtoss (talk) 10:46, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

One mention is enough OdNahlawi (talk) 10:48, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That appears to be based on nothing at all. Restored. nableezy - 15:00, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. I think it should even be in the opening paragraph to establish context. Makeandtoss (talk) 15:02, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Aziz Salha eliminated Oct 3, 2024

The guy in the infamous photo with the blood-soaked hands is gone. https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/idf-shin-bet-confirm-death-in-gaza-strike-of-palestinian-infamous-for-lynching-of-two-israeli-soldiers-in-2000/ tharsaile (talk) 17:36, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Red hand

The red hand which Palestine used, should it be me ruined on this article as this is whatxstarted thr usage? Finkyspinky (talk) 17:28, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure how much of a symbol it is, as opposed to a matter of perceptions of different groups. When many Israelis see people with reddened hands in protests, they automatically think "Aziz Salha", but many of those who redden their hands in protests may not have heard of of Aziz Salha (he's not convenient to the conventional pro-Palestinian narrative). The group "Artists4Ceasefire" claims that their logo includes an orange hand, but when they passed out pins to celebrities at the Oscars in March, the hands on those pins were actually red, giving rise to a lot of suspicion and antagonism... AnonMoos (talk) 14:05, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Do we have a response from artists4ceasefure why the pins had red hands instead of orange hands? Finkyspinky (talk) 17:49, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You can look into that. It was presumably because having hundreds of 1-color buttons made was slightly cheaper than having hundreds of 2-color buttons made, but likely also because they didn't have anyone on staff who knew or cared about Israeli sensitivities. AnonMoos (talk) 22:55, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If thats the case then they intentionally used a red hand on the red background to create controversy. For a large organistion i see it as impossible to make such a mistake between orange/red.

It seems like they did this intentionally to send a message to Israelis.

They should of stuck with the orange hand rather than using a red hand. 2A02:C7C:CC63:1900:BCC5:DDCD:5BDB:AB01 (talk) 09:54, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Misinformation about deatils of the attack and surrounding information.

"Tensions had been escalating prior to the incident; over 100 Palestinians, nearly half of them children, had been killed by Israeli forces in the preceding two weeks"

Going down to the sources of the page it says that "For two weeks there had been intense clashes, with over 100 funerals of Palestinians killed, nearly two dozen of them children." Last I checked nearly 2 dozen is very far from half of 100 = 50. This is simply blatantly wrong.

"and were taken into custody by Palestinian Authority policemen, 13 of whom were injured while trying to stop the lynching."

I went to the source listed and could find no mention of 13 policemen who were injured in any attempt to stop the attack. Looking it up online, wikipedia is the only source I found to be making such a claim. It seems unfounded. [2]https://time.com/archive/6927914/ramallah-lynching-leaves-peace-in-pieces/ The source I could find simply claimed that the police fired into the air and when they saw that this did not disperse the crowd they surrendered the two Israelis. Wikipedia seems to be painting a false image of the police desperately fighting the crowd while in reality it seems that they gave up without any meaningful struggle. Sdubiner (talk) 23:18, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In the lead you will see '...Palestinian Authority policemen, 13 of whom were injured while trying to stop the lynching.[3]' If you look at source [3] you will see references to Ha'aretz and Ma'ariv reports that support the statememt. This inconsistency suggests to me that you should remove your comment, do some more due diligence, and when you are ready you can submit an edit request following the WP:EDITXY guidelines as per the WP:ARBECR rules. Also, you have no entitlement to provide reviews of the article and personal theories about intent of authors. As a non-extendedconfirmed user you are limited to submitting edits requests. Sean.hoyland (talk) 04:46, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]