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Registered parties with party lists

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Note that the 2003 reference says that there were 21 party lists in 1996 (p22), but the 2007 reference says 22 not 21 (p87). I have taken the 2007 book as correct (particularly as the chapter is by David Henry the Chief Electoral officer. But the article Party lists in the New Zealand general election, 1996 lists 6 successful parties who mad it to Parliament plus 15 unsucessful parties, total 21 not 22 (?) Hugo999 (talk) 01:35, 15 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

In case you still have your actrix email address, you will have the relevant info in your inbox by now. What I've sent you are the official party lists. 670 people were put nominated on 21 lists. Schwede66 03:02, 15 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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I've reverted you photos changes. License on the old ones looks okay and they are a lot nicer. Could you explain the reason for your substitution? - SimonLyall (talk) 03:44, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

mostly cause they didnt fit time wise for 1996. like Anderton 2010 (+14 years) vs 2000 (+4 years), bolger 2008 (+12) vs 1996 (0), clarke 2005 (+9) vs 1997 (+1), Peters 2008 (+12) vs 1991 (-5). the prebble photo i just cropped cause it looks weird to have heads and then one full body photo. TheLoyalOrder (talk) 03:54, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
okay. It's a bit of a balance between the two requirements. Especially with limited numbers of photos available. I was prompted by this comment on twitter - SimonLyall (talk) 04:54, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ok im not gonna change it, though i think maybe some compromise could be not the directly most recent photo but closer than the ones you reverted back to TheLoyalOrder (talk) 05:30, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
im going to copy this conversation over to the talk page for the article TheLoyalOrder (talk) 05:31, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RFC: Bottom of the infoboxes in MMP New Zealand elections

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Should the bottom of the infobox in this election and all elections that follow it, which use the mixed-member proportional system, show the Prime Minister and their party alone (similarly to other Westminster systems, such as the UK, Australia, and Canada), or the Cabinet and its member parties (similarly to other systems that have coalition governments, such as Germany, the Netherlands, and Poland)? Glide08 (talk) 13:37, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New Zealand uses the same electoral system as countries like Germany and Poland, but its politics is very different. Judging it the same is erroneous as is making up naming conventions for governments that don't exist like "Bolger II" and "Bolger III". New Zealand's naming conventions are done by party both before and after MMP. Kiwichris (talk) 00:14, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps the answer is rather than have to choose between PM and government, we should have three parameters at the bottom of the infobox: One for the Prime Minister, one for their party and one for their government? It might make sense to move the 'outgoing/elected members' parameter to the same group too so all the links to outgoing/incoming are in the same place. Number 57 19:34, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'd be inclined to do something more akin to the European examples, or maybe a combination of the two? Like, list the PM, but then the coalition below it? Cabinet ministers change mid-government reasonably frequently but solely listing the PM's party is misstating it a bit. If we look at the 2020 New Zealand general election for example, you'd think that the government stayed the same as it shows Jacinda Ardern of Labour as PM before and after - but of course, this ignores that the govt beforehand relied on support from NZ First and Labour, while the govt after was a Labour majority. Turnagra (talk) 22:55, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe something like

Government before election Government after election
6th Labour (PM Jacinda Ardern) 6th Labour (PM Jacinda Ardern)
LabourNZFirst (+ Green) Labour

TheLoyalOrder (talk) 07:52, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

i'll add that the status quo is fine TheLoyalOrder (talk) 07:54, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]