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Good article1990 Football League Second Division play-off final has been listed as one of the Sports and recreation good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
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Top scorers

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For Swindon:

Plowman, Paul (2009). Swindon Town – 1879–2009 – A history in facts and figures – The Combined Volume. Footprint Publications. pp. 224–225. ISBN 978-0-9562819-0-6.

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  1. Background
  2. Match report
  3. Post-match reaction
  4. Illegal payments

The Rambling Man (Hands! Face! Space!!!!) 21:05, 17 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Top scorers (2)

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@The Rambling Man:, as requested:

Sunderland top scorer: Marco Gabbiadini (25 goals; 21 in league, 4 in League Cup)

Sunderland second top scorer: Gordon Armstrong (13 goals; 8 in league, 1 in FA Cup, 3 in League Cup, 1 in Full Members’ Cup).

Sunderland source: <ref>{{cite book |editor-first=Jack |editor-last=Rollin |title=Rothmans Football Yearbook 1990–91 |year=1990 |publisher=Queen Anne Press |location=London |isbn=978-0-356-17911-7 |pages=524–525, 644–650, 652, 673}}</ref>

Swindon top scorer: Duncan Shearer (26 goals; 20 in league, 1 in FA Cup, 4 in League Cup, 1 in Full Members’ Cup)

Swindon second top scorer: Steve White (25 goals; 18 in league, 5 in League Cup, 2 in Full Members’ Cup)

Swindon source: <ref>{{cite book |editor-first=Jack |editor-last=Rollin |title=Rothmans Football Yearbook 1990–91 |year=1990 |publisher=Queen Anne Press |location=London |isbn=978-0-356-17911-7 |pages=536–537, 644–650, 653–654, 672}}</ref>

Mattythewhite (talk) 18:50, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sauce

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Preview

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Match

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Post-match

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Scandal

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Illegal payments section

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This lot was unreferenced:

Although they won the promotion play-offs, Swindon Town did not compete in the First Division during the following season. The 1989–90 season had seen the club charged with 36 breaches of Football League regulations[1] – 35 of which related to illegal payments made to players between 1985 and 1989. A hearing to decide the club's fate was scheduled for 4 May – before the play-offs began – but this was postponed on legal advice just days before it was due when Swindon chairman Brian Hillier, club accountant Vince Farrar and former team manager Lou Macari were all charged by police for "intent to defraud Inland Revenue by making payments without deducting tax or NI". (In July 1992 both Hillier and Farrar were found guilty of these charges, while Macari was cleared). Hillier and Macari had already been punished by the FA in February 1990 for their involvement in a £6,500 bet being placed on Swindon losing to Newcastle United in a tie during the 1987–88 FA Cup. The bet was successful and netted £4,000 winnings. As this activity ran counter to FA rules that forbid any bets by club officials or players on their own team, both were found guilty. Hillier was given a six-month suspension from football, but after he (unsuccessfully) appealed, the FA increased it to three years. Macari was fined £1,000 (upheld after his own appeal), and Swindon Town given a £7,500 fine. At a Football League hearing on 7 June, Swindon pleaded guilty to all 36 charges against them and admitted a further twenty. The league decreed that the club would be denied promotion and instead demoted to the Third Division. Six days later, it was announced that losing play-off finalists Sunderland would be instead promoted to the First Division. This was controversial as Newcastle felt that as they had finished third, three places above bitter rivals Sunderland, they should have been promoted instead. The FA's decision stood and Sunderland were promoted. Swindon launched a High Court appeal against the Football League's double demotion, claiming it to be "harsh, oppressive and disproportionate to previous penalties". However, within days they dropped this action and instead appealed directly to the FA. On 2 July an FA Appeal Panel reduced the punishment to the club simply remaining in the Second Division; Tranmere Rovers – the losing play-off finalists in the Third Division – who were to have replaced Swindon in the second level were therefore denied promotion.

GA Review

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This review is transcluded from Talk:1990 Football League Second Division play-off Final/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs) 18:26, 6 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]


Hello, I am planning on reviewing this article for GA Status, over the next couple of days. Thank you for nominating the article for GA status. I hope I will learn some new information, and that my feedback is helpful.

If nominators or editors could refrain from updating the particular section that I am updating until it is complete, I would appreciate it to remove a edit conflict. Please address concerns in the section that has been completed above (If I've raised concerns up to references, feel free to comment on things like the lede.)

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[39] - something wrong with the formatting here. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 12:31, 8 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Lee Vilenski cheers, all addressed/responded to above. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 12:53, 8 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Review meta comments

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  1. ^ Cite error: The named reference Swindon Town FC History was invoked but never defined (see the help page).