Talk:1989 Football League Third Division play-off final

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1989 Football League Third Division play-off final has been listed as one of the Sports and recreation good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
June 14, 2021	Good article nominee	Listed
September 19, 2021	Good topic candidate	Promoted
January 24, 2024	Good topic removal candidate	Demoted
A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on July 6, 2021. The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Simon Mills had to postpone his honeymoon to play in the 1989 Third Division play-off final?
Current status: Good article

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:1989 Football League Third Division play-off Final/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: The Rambling Man (talk · contribs) 07:06, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

"the 1989–90 season" put "season" inside the pipe. Check all instances of this.
- Done.--Echetus Xe 14:47, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Link "replay".
- Done.--Echetus Xe 14:47, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, I don't think the Bristol Rovers game belongs in the lead, background only.
- What Bristol Rovers game?--EchetusXe 14:47, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  - I meant City... The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 16:58, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"talisman" POV, some people might think that's a position on the pitch....!
- Done.--Echetus Xe 14:47, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"Earle was the hero once again" again, tone issues, stick to the facts.
- Done.--Echetus Xe 14:47, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Lead should note that the final was thus won 2-1 on agg.
- Done.--Echetus Xe 14:47, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Link header.
- Done.--Echetus Xe 14:47, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Link Vale and Rovers again in the Route to the final sec.
- Done.--Echetus Xe 14:47, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"clubs had only lost ten" only each lost ORR clubs had lost just ten games each...
- Done.--Echetus Xe 14:47, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Link cross.
- Done.--Echetus Xe 14:47, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Link pitch invasion.
- Done.--Echetus Xe 14:47, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Link MP but re-jig that sentence so it's not a sea of blue.
- Done.--Echetus Xe 14:47, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"but no enquiry was made" but none was made.
- Done.--Echetus Xe 14:47, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Link penalty.
- Done.--Echetus Xe 14:47, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Link aggregate.
- Done.--Echetus Xe 14:47, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I normally put the dates of the play-off semi-finals in there.
- Done.--Echetus Xe 14:47, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"a place Bristol Rovers had called their home ground since" -> "where BR had played their home matches since"
- Done.--Echetus Xe 14:47, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
""Fulham's record of conceding a further 16 goals than Bristol Rovers over the course of the season showed and the Bristol team went through in emphatic style" bit commentator-ish, and not much detail on the goals.
- Done.--Echetus Xe 14:47, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Does ref 8 really cite the whole para preceding it?
- Done.--Echetus Xe 14:47, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"the referee for " link referee first time, but I would add this info into the match summaries right than jam them both together in the background section.
- Done.--Echetus Xe 14:47, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"John Jeffers missed" overlinked.
- Done.--Echetus Xe 14:47, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"on the 30th-minute" in the 30th minute
- Done.--Echetus Xe 14:47, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"Darren Beckford" no need for first name after first mention.
- Done.--Echetus Xe 14:47, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Link corner kick. The first time....
- Done.--Echetus Xe 14:47, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Should ref 12 and ref 2 have the same work?
- Done.--Echetus Xe 14:47, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Is that all that's available (to you) on the matches? I can help with Guardian/British Newspaper Archive/Gale if required.
- Yes, please assist me.--Echetus Xe 14:47, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Not much on the Bristol Rovers team selections...
"1 – 1" unspaced en-dash.
- Done.--Echetus Xe 14:47, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"recovered excellently from the" remove "excellently".
- Done.--Echetus Xe 14:47, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"Vale lasted in " remained.
- Done.--Echetus Xe 14:47, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"last-place" no hyphen.
- Done.--Echetus Xe 14:47, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"Martyn would go on" went on
- Done.--Echetus Xe 14:47, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Can you replace the table sources all with 11v11 so we have no issues over RS?
- What do you mean?--EchetusXe 14:47, 27 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  - I'm not sure of the provenance of "www.englishfootballleaguetables.co.uk." yet 11v11 do league tables and that website has been agreed to be a reliable source. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 20:30, 29 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That's enough for a first pass, on hold. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 17:51, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

EchetusXe ok I'll see what I can dig out on those sites and let you know. There are a couple of points here which you can take a look at in the meantime. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 20:30, 29 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Okay thank you.--Echetus Xe 12:33, 30 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Some clippings:

EchetusXe do you have access to the British Newspaper Archive? If not I'll take a look, are you able to/happy to receive emails? The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 16:20, 2 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I've added a few interesting points from those clippings and there was a new article published today actually. I don't have a subscription to the newspaper archive but I can receive emails.--EchetusXe 16:20, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- I sent you some more stuff. Let me know when you're done. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 15:46, 9 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  - I recieved one email with snippings but not a second ne. Thanks.--EchetusXe 13:17, 10 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    - Yeah, it was just one email along with the links above. Have you incorporated all you can from those? The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 11:07, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
      - Yes but the references for the emailed stuff doesn't seem to be working.--Echetus Xe 13:20, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
        They were PDFs?? The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 14:15, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
        They had a section that says "link" at the bottom.--Echetus Xe 08:52, 14 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
        Oh, I don't get it. I sent four PDFs I think, they contained everything, no links required and as far as I know, no links sent. There's a citation at the end of each one which has a URL if required, but all the material required is there, no need to go online for anything. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:30, 14 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
        No that's what I'm saying. I copied the citation for the articles references but they don't seem to work on the article.--Echetus Xe 12:10, 14 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
        Ok, that makes sense. Just put them in as bare refs if you like and I'll fix them up. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 12:13, 14 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
        Yeah they're in the article. Thanks.--Echetus Xe 14:42, 14 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Tidied up and promoted. Cheers. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 20:43, 14 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by Vaticidalprophet (talk) 15:07, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Robbie Earle was appointed an MBE ten years after scoring an "MBE" in a play-off final? (Source "Vale got the breakthrough seven minutes into the second half - through the tried and trusted “MBE” method. Mills took a corner, Beckford flicked it on and Earle came roaring in to head the ball into the net. It was his 19th goal of the season and certainly the most important - but also the fourth headed goal he had scored against Rovers in four games that season" & Source "Wimbledon captain Robbie Earle was also awarded an MBE.")
... that Bristol Rovers were reported to have reached a 1989 play-off final "against every apparent law of logic"?^[1]
... Simon Mills had to postpone his honeymoon to play in the 1989 Third Division play-off final?^[2]

Reviewed: Bitcoin Law

Improved to Good Article status by EchetusXe (talk). Self-nominated at 17:03, 14 June 2021 (UTC).[reply]

Substantial article, meeting of GA criteria implicates DYK pass. Article was nominated within 7 days of passing GA. QPQ has been completed. No pings on Earwigs for copyvio or close paraphrasing. The hook feels a bit esoteric; the pun requires too much existing knowledge of the source material to make sense at first read. I think an alt hook or hooks are needed here. Morgan695 (talk) 04:50, 22 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I have added a couple more hooks for your consideration. thanks.Echetus Xe 15:58, 23 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Approved for both alt hooks, though I think the latter is the most interesting. Morgan695 (talk) 23:35, 23 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Sherwin, Phil (1 June 2019). "Port Vale win 1989 play-off final to kick-off the best decade in club's history". The Sentinel. Archived from the original on 21 June 2020. Retrieved 3 June 2020.
^ Foot, David (6 May 1989). "Gerry-built and Bristol fashion". The Guardian. Archived from the original on 3 June 2021. Retrieved 3 June 2021 – via Newspapers.com.

[1] Sherwin, Phil (1 June 2019). "Port Vale win 1989 play-off final to kick-off the best decade in club's history". The Sentinel. Archived from the original on 21 June 2020. Retrieved 3 June 2020.

[2] Foot, David (6 May 1989). "Gerry-built and Bristol fashion". The Guardian. Archived from the original on 3 June 2021. Retrieved 3 June 2021 – via Newspapers.com.

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