Talk:1987 FA Cup final

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1987 FA Cup final is a featured article; it (or a previous version of it) has been identified as one of the best articles produced by the Wikipedia community. Even so, if you can update or improve it, please do so.

This article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page as Today's featured article on May 14, 2022.

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Date	Process	Result
January 12, 2021	Good article nominee	Listed
March 9, 2021	Featured article candidate	Promoted

A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on January 30, 2021.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Coventry City's winning goal in the 1987 FA Cup Final was an own goal scored in extra time off Gary Mabbutt's knee?

Current status: Featured article

Coventry Manager incorrect

The Cov manager was John Sillett, not George Curtis. Someone should change that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.45.190.37 (talk) 16:53, 17 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Dumping ground for sources

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:1987 FA Cup Final/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Kosack (talk · contribs) 13:05, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take this one on, review incoming. Kosack (talk) 13:05, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Lead

Link kick-off.

Coventry City

You're starting from scratch with links here really, so Coventry > Coventry City.
Done. — Amakuru (talk) 14:02, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Link FA Cup and Third Division.
Done. — Amakuru (talk) 14:02, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"managed at the time by future Coventry manager Phil Neal", is this worth noting? If he had taken over following the final perhaps I would agree, but he wouldn't do so for another six years?
I guess not. Removed. — Amakuru (talk) 14:02, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Link George Curtis and perhaps note his managerial role for context?
Done. — Amakuru (talk) 14:02, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"The game was once again played on a frozen pitch and Coventry won the game", double use of game is a little repetitive.
Second instance removed. — Amakuru (talk) 14:02, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"this time Second Division at Stoke City" > at Second Division...?
Done. — Amakuru (talk) 14:02, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Link Sheffield Wednesday. I'm guessing this will progress to FAC, so neutral venue may be worth linking as well.
Done both. — Amakuru (talk) 14:02, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Tottenham Hotspur

Again, as the first mention outside the lead, Tottenham > Tottenham Hotspur.
Done. — Amakuru (talk) 14:06, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Link Fourth Division, may also be worth adding team or side afterwards to avoid a sea of blue.
Done. — Amakuru (talk) 14:06, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Link replay to Replay (sports).
Done. — Amakuru (talk) 14:06, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"beat fellow Division One", until now you've used the First Division, Second Division, etc format. I'd try to maintain the same style to avoid any confusion.
Done. — Amakuru (talk) 14:06, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Link Watford.
Done. — Amakuru (talk) 14:06, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Background

Link Highfield Road.
I've added a linked reference to this up in the "Route to the final" section. — Amakuru (talk) 14:13, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps worth noting that the two singles were "commemorative songs for reaching the final" or something similar just to explain the relevance of them to people who may be unfamiliar to the tradition.
Done. — Amakuru (talk) 14:13, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Referee is linked here but is used in the Coventry Route to the Final section previously.
Fixed. I've also linked it where it occurs in the lead. — Amakuru (talk) 14:13, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Link captains.
Done. — Amakuru (talk) 14:13, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"in the starting elevn", typo.
Fixed. — Amakuru (talk) 14:13, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

First half

Is there a need to bring Hotspur back here?
Done. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 14:53, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The infobox has hot conditions, but here mentions warm conditions. I'd class them as being a bit different so perhaps worth fine tuning?
Done. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 14:53, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"was blocked by Peake who pass to Ogrizovic", should that be whose?
Done. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 14:53, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"was lofted by Kilcline", add full name and link for Kilcline here as it's the first time he's been mentioned.
Done. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 14:53, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The article seems to vary uses of extra time and extra-time. Best to stick to one style.
Done. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 14:53, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Post-match

First mention of Sillett outside the match details section. Worth including his full name and linking. Perhaps also list his position in the same way as Curtis also.
Done. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 13:44, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"which, as of 2019, remains a club record", still so?
Almost certainly, but the sources all seem to be 2019, I tried getting a BBC archive of the Spurs top scorers for last season but it kept redirecting back to the current page which isn't any use. Any thoughts? The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 13:44, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I have added 11v11 links to confirm that the record wasn't broken either this year or last year. — Amakuru (talk) 14:21, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Probably worth linking fanzine.
Done. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 13:44, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

References

Ref 4 uses 11v11.com while other uses all drop the .com. Not a major issue but probably worth lining up.
Done. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 13:37, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Other than that, the refs seem very well formatted and a few random spot checks all come up good.
Cool, thanks for checking. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 13:37, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A very thorough and well written article. A few points above to look at, but nothing major. Placed on hold for now. Kosack (talk) 13:29, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Amakuru some food for thought here while homeschooling! The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 13:33, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Kosack I think between me and Amakuru and some homsechooling, we're done. Cheers so much for the review. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 14:53, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good. Happy to promote. Kosack (talk) 15:20, 12 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nationalities for players and managers

Hello! Can you add nationalities for players and managers in the 1987 final. I think Coventry City only had one managers and that was John Sillett. Yours sincerely, Sondre --88.89.103.4 (talk) 12:52, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers, but no thanks, that's trivial and recent additions have been unreferenced. And no, Coventry had joint managers. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 14:51, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Post-match, 2nd paragraph

"Mabbutt became the third person to score both for and against his own club in an FA Cup final, the others being Bert Turner (Charlton Athletic in 1946) and Tommy Hutchison (for Manchester City in 1981)."

One parenthesis starts with "for" whereas the other doesn't. Since the gentlemen in question scored for both sides, I guess both parentheses should contain (for and against Charlton/Manchester City in respective year). However, the simplest way to put it would be, in my humble view: Bert Turner of Charlton Athletic in 1946 and Tommy Hutchison of Manchester City in 1981.

Kind regards. 88.207.56.95 (talk) 01:01, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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