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Merger proposal

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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
Too soon for a merge, given that legal processes are ongoing. Klbrain (talk) 11:28, 25 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I propose merging Hassan Diab (sociologist) to 1980 Paris synagogue bombing, per WP:PERPETRATOR. He does not seem to be notable as an academic, and the crime's motivation/execution is not unordinary (a synagogue bombing motivated by antisemitism). Diab has been convicted of the crime, and while this case might be a judicial error/wrongful conviction, that would be speculation on our part. The merge wouldn't create any size or WP:UNDUE issues. Mooonswimmer 18:27, 21 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If this had been a straightforward case, I would agree. But I think there's a decent case to be made that he's become notable independent of the bombing because of all the international publicity surrounding the extradition, etc. Bueller 007 (talk) 18:35, 21 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Agree per nom Longhornsg (talk) 20:03, 21 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose given that many reliable secondary sources focus on Diab's claimed innocence (even when reporting the recent conviction), the perceived weakness of evidence discussed in secondary sources, and the controversy in Canada surrounding his deportation (both historic regarding the 2014 deportation and ongoing controversy about a possible second deportation) I think Diab is notable beyond one single criminal act and conviction. Also the 2009 Carlton University appointment controversy seems to fit poorly in an article about the 1980 synagogue bombing. BananaCarrot152 (talk) 21:44, 21 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Soft Oppose per Bueller 007. The reporting in Canada is mostly about his extradition, long imprisonment in France without charges, and then initial release without charges. All of which occurred before this most recent conviction in absentia. Under normal circumstances merging the article of a person convicted of a crime with the article about that crime is very straightforward. This case is anything but straightforward. It is one that Amnesty International is calling "baseless and flawed", "groundless". Essentially, some see this as a political prosecution, miscarriage of justice. Others, as justice served. It looks likely that a long extradition fight possibly lasting more than two years will come next. It would seem that this conviction will not be the end of the legal, political and diplomatic wranglings about this. Of course, what happens next is far from certain, but I think it would be unwise for us to view this a simple merger due to the conviction. I expect the long complicated history, differing views and likely future wranglings would make a merger difficult. But perhaps once this has fully played out it will be easier to see how this content could exist in one article. Maybe this is a bit of a WP:TOOSOON situation.--Darryl Kerrigan (talk) 23:59, 21 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Soft oppose as above by Darryl. These two articles could be part of the same overall topic if they were strictly intertwined but it is also possible that Diab is the proverbial red herring. Legal processes are ongoing and it is WP:TOOSOON for editors to determine this relationship or lack thereof. Jorahm (talk) 18:08, 23 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Motive

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In which citation is the motive claimed and/or deduced? 66.190.28.218 (talk) 03:25, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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