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A fact from 18×2 Beyond Youthful Days appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 16 May 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the 2024 film 18×2 Beyond Youthful Days was filmed in Japan in March to capture both snowfalls and cherry blossoms in the same month?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2024/May. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/18×2 Beyond Youthful Days.

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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 19:50, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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... that the 2024 film 18×2 Beyond Youthful Days was purposefully filmed in Japan in March to capture both snowfalls and cherry blossoms in the same month?

Source: ^[1]

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Lunch (song)

Created by Prince of Erebor (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 7 past nominations.

Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 11:31, 26 April 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Having read the article, I'd suggest additional hook proposals be proposed because the currently-proposed hook isn't really that interesting by itself. There's no shortage about possible hooks here, with the Production section itself being full of possible material. One possible hook could be how the original choice for cinematographer had to back out due to his wife's childbirth, but there are also other possible options. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:33, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Narutolovehinata5: Hi Narutolovehinata5, thanks for reviewing the article! I actually think quite the opposite. I chose the current proposed hook because Chang Chen is a veteran actor with over 40 years of experience and has participated in numerous Hollywood projects, but this is his very first time serving as a producer. On the other hand, the cinematographers weren't really big names that would arouse anyone's interest, and dropping out of a film project sounds too common and trivial. While writing the article, I actually thought of two potential hooks (didn't include them initially as I thought the current one was better):

1. ...that the 2024 romance film 18×2 Beyond Youthful Days was purposefully filmed in Japan during March, taking advantage of the country's seasonal change to capture both snowfalls and cherry blossoms in the same month?

2. ...that Greg Hsu took a hiatus from filming the 2024 romance film 18×2 Beyond Youthful Days to attend the 59th Baeksang Arts Awards but returned to the set the very next day?

What do you think?—Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 12:51, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Prince of Erebor: The main concern I have about the original hook is that if the reader wasn't familiar with Chen, the significance of the information wouldn't be as obvious. He isn't a household name like say Jackie Chan. Having said that, I like the first option. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:55, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Narutolovehinata5: Right, that's absolutely true. I included a description of him starring in Dune for the exact same reason. I have updated with the new hook.

Btw, I just took a look at your profile page and realized that you are the one who wrote LiSA and Attack on Titan into good articles. I am genuinely impressed by your contributions!!—Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 13:08, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Narutolovehinata5: I have already updated the hook. Please check!—Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 08:13, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I like the hook fact itself, but at 214 characters it's too long since hooks should generally be a maximum of 200 characters long. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:42, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Narutolovehinata5: Just copied and pasted and forgot about the hook length requirement. Now done, please check.—Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 12:18, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Narutolovehinata5: Anything else you would like me to do?—Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 06:14, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies for the delay in responding! I don't see the new/revised hook here so maybe you can propose it below this comment? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:01, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Narutolovehinata5: Huh? I don't understand. The current hook above "...that the 2024 film 18×2 Beyond Youthful Days was purposefully filmed in Japan during March, leveraging the country's seasonal change to capture both snowfalls and cherry blossoms in the same month?" is the revised hook. It is 197 characters long. Is there a bug or something?

The nomination has been pending for nearly a week, and there are no further improvements or revisions needed. As I have exams coming up next week and am becoming busier, would you mind expediting the review process a bit? Thank you!!—Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 05:02, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That is weird. When I copy-pasted the hook the one I copypasted was over 200 characters excluding the dots at the start. I must have copied from an old revision of the page. in any case, 197 characters, while acceptable, is still on the long side and I wonder if it could be shortened further since that length is not ideal. If not, I'll accept it as is. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 05:42, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Narutolovehinata5: Right! I removed the mention of Japan's seasonal change. Now it is trimmed to 151 characters. Please check!—Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 07:36, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! The article is new enough and free from close paraphrasing. The current hook is interesting and cited inline; it is cited to a Taiwanese source so AGF on the reliability, but the provided English translation and a Google Translate translation check out. A QPQ has been done. There's only a minor issue in that I would suggest including a sentence or two about reception in the lede for completeness sake, but as this isn't a GA that isn't really something that should prevent approval, it's just a suggestion. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:28, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ 項貽斐 (March 26, 2024). "【台日浪漫戀情3】跟著許光漢看盡一年四季　從日本雪國、櫻花到南台灣盛夏" [【Taiwan-Japan Romantic Love Story 3】Following Greg Hsu through the four seasons. From the snowy regions of Japan, cherry blossoms, and the peak of summer in southern Taiwan.] (in Chinese). Mirror Media. Archived from the original on April 5, 2024. Retrieved April 24, 2024. 為展現片中四季樣貌，去年3月先於日本拍攝，再轉往台灣取景。藤井道人表示：「因為3月是日本非常有魅力的一個月份，正好在季節轉換之際，月初還下雪、月底櫻花已綻放，能在最短的時間內分別拍到這兩種景象。日本部分殺青，剛好到台灣接著拍夏天的戲。」 [To showcase the changing seasons in the film, [18×2 Beyond Youthful Days] was first shot in Japan in March last year and then moved to Taiwan for further filming. Director Fujii Michihito stated, "March is a captivating month in Japan because it is the transition period between seasons. At the beginning of the month, there is still snowfall, while by the end of the month, cherry blossoms are in full bloom. We were able to capture these two different landscapes within a short timeframe. The filming in Japan concluded, and we seamlessly transitioned to shooting summer scenes in Taiwan."]

GA Review

Passed. 𝚈𝚘𝚟𝚝 (𝚝𝚊𝚕𝚔𝚟𝚝) 16:58, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This review is transcluded from Talk:18×2 Beyond Youthful Days/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Prince of Erebor (talk · contribs) 16:25, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Yovt (talk · contribs) 14:26, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take this one on. Ping me if I'm not back by next week. - 𝚈𝚘𝚟𝚝 (𝚝𝚊𝚕𝚔𝚟𝚝) 14:26, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for the delay. I will now assess this article in accordance with the Manual of Style for film-related articles. - 𝚈𝚘𝚟𝚝 (𝚝𝚊𝚕𝚔𝚟𝚝) 15:35, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lead

Lead section is a well-constructed summary of this film, so long as the Golden Horse Award nominations are updated as appropriate in the future.

Plot

Plot (also synopsis) section accurately describes the movie's content and is well between 400 - 700 words.

Cast

Cast section describes the roles of the actors in the film with refs, though I suggest adding a picture of the main character, particularly this one of Greg Hsu, alongside a proper caption like "Greg Hsu portrays Jimmy, a former video game developer who reconnects with his past love and life choices."

Production

Production section is a clear and readable narrative of how the film was developed.

Marketing

Marketing section seems good to me.^[1]

Release

Release section has in-line citations with verifiable refs.

Box Office

Box Office section has 100% verifiable info and 0% original research.

Critical reception

Critical reception (also Critical response) section has been summarized as "The film received generally positive reviews from critics", with later content further elaborating on that so good job.

Accolades

Accolades (in this case Awards and nominations) section shows what this film has secured in terms of nominations. Same case as lead, please be sure to update the Horse Award noms as soon as published.

Please take some time to make these changes (and others you think may be necessary). I will come back later for more feedback.

Nominator's reply

Hello Yovt! Thanks for reviewing this article (on this interestingly coincidental date XD)! Regarding the addition of images in the Cast section, that is a great suggestion. However, since both Greg Hsu and Kaya Kiyohara are the lead actors, it feels a bit odd to include just one of them. So I looked for available images and found a a Vogue Taiwan video featuring both Hsu and Kiyohara promoting the film in March, which has a CC license. I have added a screenshot to the article. Please take a look and let me know what you think. If you believe that having only the portrait of Greg Hsu is more preferable, I will change it accordingly. —Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 16:46, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The screenshot you have provided is a better image for the cast section, thank you for including it. Overall: I feel this meets the criteria very easily, good work overall! Regards.

Pass/fail:

𝚈𝚘𝚟𝚝 (𝚝𝚊𝚕𝚔𝚟𝚝) 16:57, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

^ The teaser for this film was released on this day a year ago, how cool is that?

[1] 項貽斐 (March 26, 2024). "【台日浪漫戀情3】跟著許光漢看盡一年四季　從日本雪國、櫻花到南台灣盛夏" [【Taiwan-Japan Romantic Love Story 3】Following Greg Hsu through the four seasons. From the snowy regions of Japan, cherry blossoms, and the peak of summer in southern Taiwan.] (in Chinese). Mirror Media. Archived from the original on April 5, 2024. Retrieved April 24, 2024. 為展現片中四季樣貌，去年3月先於日本拍攝，再轉往台灣取景。藤井道人表示：「因為3月是日本非常有魅力的一個月份，正好在季節轉換之際，月初還下雪、月底櫻花已綻放，能在最短的時間內分別拍到這兩種景象。日本部分殺青，剛好到台灣接著拍夏天的戲。」 [To showcase the changing seasons in the film, [18×2 Beyond Youthful Days] was first shot in Japan in March last year and then moved to Taiwan for further filming. Director Fujii Michihito stated, "March is a captivating month in Japan because it is the transition period between seasons. At the beginning of the month, there is still snowfall, while by the end of the month, cherry blossoms are in full bloom. We were able to capture these two different landscapes within a short timeframe. The filming in Japan concluded, and we seamlessly transitioned to shooting summer scenes in Taiwan."]

[2] The teaser for this film was released on this day a year ago, how cool is that?

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