Talk:1349 (band)
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[edit]14.03.2007 - I disagree as to 1349 being an attempt to "sound like" 90s. This should be described as a continuation of the 90s "Second Wave", more akin to later music than old Enslaved, Satyricon or Mayhem. It's misleading to say that they are in anyway "old school." I really don't find anything in common with the early 90s in their latest releases.
"This band is becoming widely popular and respected in the metal underground as they so far have rejected the more commercial, watered-down style of such "mallcore" bands including Dimmu Borgir, In Flames and Cradle of Filth."
In Flames and Dimmu Borgir aren't mallcore.71.51.9.205 01:13, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
Dimmu Borgir sure are...--82.71.72.46 16:06, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
You don't know what mallcore is then. Dimmu Borgir is symphonic black metal. They sound nothing of mallcore. Undeath (talk) 19:29, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
Controversy
[edit]I neither like the tone nor the content or the new Controversy paragraph. It hints that the band have been accused of having racial beliefs of white supremacy. This is a very serious accusation, and it is clearly against WP:NPOV, one of the pillar of wikipedia:
- It is not sourced. This need independent and reliable sources. Is it WP:OR ?
- The tone is overly POV.
- It is inaccurate. The beginning of the article clearly states that the reason for the band's name is because 1349 was the year of the start of the bubonic plague in Norway. In the sourced interview, Seidemann does not say anything else. The 1349 article says the same (The Black Death spreads to Norway when an English ship with everyone dead on board floats to Bergen). The fact that 16000 Jews were killed in Strasbourg in the same year is cited in the same 1349 article, but the only link between the two events is the bubonic plague (which was spreading everywhere in Europe).
- The bubonic plague began in 1347, and rapidly spread in all Europe (including Norway). 2/3 of the population of Norway died because of the infection.
In other words, this paragraph seems to be wholly inaccurate and non neutral. So if no independent and reliable sources are added within two days, I will delete this addition. Hervegirod (talk) 20:53, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
- No sources were added, so I deleted this part. It must have been WP:OR Hervegirod (talk) 09:32, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
I think it is time to wrap up the deletion discussion concerning this page.
[edit]It has been past five days since it was originally put up for deletion (past five if you're counting hours and minutes, that is). Nobody voted to delete this article as well, so the result most likely will be to keep the page. I'm pretty sure I do not have the authority to wrap up the discussion and put up the warning of "This is an archived page. It should not be edited whatsoever". Therefore, this message is to anyone who does have such an authority. Thank you in advance. BacktableSpeak to Meabout what I have done 20:49, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
Genre capitalization
[edit]In the hope that the 80.25.x.x editor reads this, WP:MOS (music) clearly states that genres are not proper nouns, and so the "metal" of "Black metal" would not be capitalized. Please stop changing it. MrMoustacheMM (talk) 04:43, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
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