Talk:Śāstra pramāṇam

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Śāstra pramāṇam in Hinduism was considered historically in many aspects such as Dharma, way of worship, interpretation of Hindu scriptures, Law, Darshanas and especially Vedanta schools. In all important Hindu texts such as Gita, commentaries on Prasthanatrayi the emphasis on Śāstra pramāṇam is highlighted. This article gives information on the order of precedence of epistemic authority in Hindu scriptures. Bsskchaitanya (talk) 20:59, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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@Joshua Jonathan: I feel purushartha has to be mentioned because for the fourth of it, i.e. Moksha, Śāstra pramāṇam has been exhaustively considered during debates among Vedanta schools. I will update this article whenever I get time. Would you mind to review this article. Thanks in advance my friend. Bsskchaitanya (talk) 21:02, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It's still a doublure of sources of dharma, and a synonym of Pramana#Śabda. And you need to attribute in-Wiki copying: give an overview from whcih articles you have copied info. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 06:31, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I've redirected "Sources of dharma" to this article. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 07:06, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Joshua Jonathan:It's still a doublure of sources of dharma, and a synonym of Pramana#Śabda. And you need to attribute in-Wiki copying: give an overview from whcih articles you have copied info.

Can you suggest me how to do that. pramāṇam means correct/fulfledged measurement (pra+mānam). Until the advent of Buddhism, Śāstra pramāṇam was never questioned (atleast for Vedas and Smritis). To with stand the onslaught of nastika traditions, especially that of Buddhism, the darshana systems were started. In that the, the first darsana was Nyaya that was based on sutras of Gautama (Akshapada). Actually, it was in that sutras, the concept of Pramanas have been thoroughly developed and dealt for construction of philosophical arguments. Being an astika darsana, Nayyāyikās accepted the authority of Vedas. This concept of pramanas has been carried throughout all other darsana systems. Only Mimamsa and Vedanta (especially advaita) systems were able to turn the tide against Buddhism and paved way for near-complete Hindu revival in Indian subcontinent. Thus, the origin of the concept of Pramana was much before the nyaya -darsana.

So, this article deals with Hindu scriptures that were used a standard reference for all purposes in Hindu life and their epistemic order. For example, the Gaudiya vaishnavism of Vedanta give equal importance to Purana (i.e. Bhagavata) as much as vedas. I think this article can be developed over time. Once again thanks for your contribution. Bsskchaitanya (talk) 09:54, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Status of Puranas

As per traditional view, Puranas are not part of smriti. They have inferior epistemic status when compared to smriti. However, Puranas such as Bhagavata hold very high esteem. See the below reference from page 67 of "Hindu Widow Marriage", by Ishvarchandra Vidyasagar, where Vyasa smriti is quoted by the author to argue for widow remarriage during Company rule in Bengal. Here is the verse, In cases where conflicts are apparent among veda, smriti and Purana, Veda is the valid authority; and where Smriti and Purana are in conflict, Smriti is the valid authority (Vyasasmriti 1.4). He clearly mentions about the lower status of Puranas w.r.t. smriti. Original text of Vyasa smriti can be found here https://www.astrojyoti.com/pdfs/DevanagariFiles/02Vyasa_Smriti.pdf. Bsskchaitanya (talk) 10:53, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There are supposed to be 14 Hindu sciences(caturdasa vidya) as listed in vayu purana: 4 Vedas, 6 Vedangas, Dharmasastras, Puranas, Nyaya, and Mimamsa. (Notice that Puranas are quoted separately). To that list 4 more are added Ayurveda (medicine), Dhanurveda (warcraft), Gandharvaveda (music) and Arthasastra. These 18 are called Astaadasa vidyas. The link is https://books.google.fr/books?id=ql0BmInD1c4C, page 456. I have noticed that in wikipedia smriti page as well purana is mentioned as part of smriti.

So my suggestion is to remove purana as subsection and make it a section. Bsskchaitanya (talk) 18:36, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]