Talk:"V" Is for Vagina

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This page has credits for two songs that dont appear on the album, The Undertaker Spanish Fly Mix &Lighten Up Francis, where can they be found? Id really like to hear them. (Megalo milo 01:14, 3 November 2007 (UTC))[reply]

Track Names

Where did these track names come from? The track names on my album appear exactly as follows (my comments are in italics):

Queen B (no period at the end)
Dozo (lower-case z, no "(Version 3)")
Vagina Mine
Momma Sed
Drunk With Power (no "(Version 2)")
The Undertaker
Trekka (no "(Sean Beaven Mix)")
Indigo Children
Sour Grapes
Rev. 22:20 (dry martini mix) (the mix name is all lower-case)

Shouldn't the official track names be used?? -- Christopher C. Parker ^{t c} 02:50, 3 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Album name

The official name of the album is "V" is for Vagina, is there any way that this can be implemented? --Donniedarkofan2006 03:51, 5 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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BetacommandBot (talk) 21:26, 26 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Why is the "i" capitalized?

It doesn't make sense and it doesn't represent the title released by Puscifer. لenna vecia 17:30, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Because it's "supposed to be", obviously.

Seriously though, Allmusic capitalizes (but omits quotes). Ditto Amazon. Store.puscifer.com neither capitalises or quotes. The CD cover itself quotes, but does not capitalise anything other than the V. the skomorokh 17:47, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As WP:NCM does not give any guidance and although the capitalized I "just looks wrong" to me, I would be inclined to go with the Allmusic house style (unless there is a more authoritative third party source). the skomorokh 17:52, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"I" is supposed to be capatalized in "is" in titles, such as Slipknot's latest album All Hope Is Gone (and the song All Hope Is Gone) is capatalized within the "I", my edit was once reverted for moving the All Hope Is Gone album article by lowecasing the "I" on is, but then it was quickly reverted. Y B K 22:01, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

skomorokh, there is a guide. I found it earlier today. WP:ALBUMCAPS. I asked about it there. Discussion found at here. I don't think it looks good either, and would have thought we would go based on sources, giving greater consideration to the capitalization from the band. However, this is apparently a standard for albums, books, movies, etc. There are a couple links there, but I've not yet looked at them. Will shortly. لenna vecia 01:15, 13 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for finding that convention, it's a lot more helpful than the MoS. Are we sure of how the band capitalizes? I only ask because I haven't seen anything from them that names the album in standard-formatted text - the album cover mixes fonts, and it's unclear whether it's in all caps or not. the Guardian style guide from the discussion you linked seems unambiguous in its support of capitalization of verbs. The Times says "As a rule of thumb, use l/c for prepositions, conjunctions, definite and indefinite articles", which supports by omission capitalization. Given the WikiProject convention and the sources we have here, it looks like the burden of argument is on the "don't capitalise" side. the skomorokh 01:46, 13 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think ALBUMCAPS is going to win out when it comes to naming conventions; the 'I' will be in caps. I went through a similar situation with PETCO Park, but the consensus was adhere to Wikipedia's naming conventions over that of the 'namer.' ^Law_shoot! 03:04, 13 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The band's website has it in lower caps. Also, the cover we show in the article uses a small caps font, which shows the "V" capitalized, not the "i". Additionally, the album was funded by Maynard and released with the help of Sony BMG. The SonyBMG.uk Artist Info for Puscifer shows no capitalization of the "i". And, last, on Maynard's MySpace blog (you have to navigate to the blog, as the link is blacklisted, and ctrl-f for "is for"), when he made the announcements for "V" is for Vagina and "V" is for Viagra, he did not capitalize the "i". لenna vecia 07:30, 13 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I would agree that it is clear the band does not capitalize the i. Then again, the album cover doesn't capitalize 'vagina' either. I don't like the way it looks now, but if I remember grammar rules, the 'I' in 'is' should be in caps a la Paris Is Burning (film). I think the only time the MoS goes against standardization is when it's a trademark, like eBay -- a rule I dislike. I would like to see naming conventions derive directly from the source and not from a manual. If anyone will be looking for consensus here, I'm all for ignoring the MoS and using the lowercase, FWIW. ^Law_shoot! 08:03, 13 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am with Law. I think it should be based on the band and closely related sources. Perhaps it's not really been an issue before, but with this title and those with closely related titles do not look right. لenna vecia 12:52, 13 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]