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*What actually seems pathetic to me, is the way you abuse Sachin fans. You scream at them for being supposedly 'biased' towards Tendulkar, while you yourself (ironically) delete swaves of information so that your hero King Viv is portrayed on Wikipedia as the better cricketer. Pathetic, honestly. '''[[User:A Prodigy|<font color="orange">A Prodigy</font>]]'''&nbsp;'''[[User_talk:A Prodigy|<font color="green">~In Pursuit of Perfection</font>]]~''' 18:25, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
*What actually seems pathetic to me, is the way you abuse Sachin fans. You scream at them for being supposedly 'biased' towards Tendulkar, while you yourself (ironically) delete swaves of information so that your hero King Viv is portrayed on Wikipedia as the better cricketer. Pathetic, honestly. '''[[User:A Prodigy|<font color="orange">A Prodigy</font>]]'''&nbsp;'''[[User_talk:A Prodigy|<font color="green">~In Pursuit of Perfection</font>]]~''' 18:25, 3 September 2008 (UTC)


this anup ramakrishnan says tendulkar avgs 26-28 againist SA/ENG/AUS......he avgs 46 againist AUS,41 aaginist eng and 31 againsit SA

in their own grounds he avgs in aus 37,in eng 43 and in SA 39.......only 16 of his centuries are scored in India.....his test record is even better........<ref>http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/35320.html?class=1;template=results;type=allround</ref>
<ref>http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/35320.html?class=2;template=results;type=allround</ref>


as regards to his bad record againist SA well some times some players do not have a great record againist one particular team.many greats have struggled againist one team or another.

Viv richards didnt had to play the best boweling line up of his time coz he played with them.his record againist Pakistan is ordinary
chek<ref>http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/52812.html?class=1;template=results;type=allround</ref>
<ref>http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/52812.html?class=2;template=results;type=allround</ref>


== 20 : 20 statistics==
== 20 : 20 statistics==

Revision as of 23:23, 13 October 2009

The "Regard by Other Players" section

Should this not be just a section of quotes by other cricketers? Sunil Gavaskar in his book 'Sunny Days' rates Rohan Kanhai the very best batsmen he ever saw live at any point in his life; and he rates Garfield Sobers and Vivian Richards just below him. Of course he did not see pre-1960 batsmen live but clearly there are at least three ahead of Tendulkar in his ratings. Barry Richards has been demonized in India for having rated Vivian Richards and Graeme Pollock above Tendulkar. Imran Khan rates Richards handsomely above Tendulkar and Wasim Akram rates Richards, Gavaskar and Martin Crowe above Tendulkar as well. At the turn of the century, Shane Warne rated Richards the best batsmen and cricketer since 1970, so that reveals who he thinks is the very best. These points are just overlooked here. There are citations for all these on the Richards page. 98.221.122.175 (talk) 00:40, 4 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ICC Rankings

Why is anybody not putting up the ICC Rankings that were brought out in 2006? Ha .... it is an honor for SRT to be ranked 26 in Tests and 12 in ODIs. For somebody who is being compared unfairly to the Don and the King - unfair as he is simply not even remotely in their league. Anyway good that the 'revised 2003 ODI rankings list' has been busted. There was NEVER any such 'revised' list. SRT is not even in the top 20 batsmen ever in ODIs or top 100 in Tests if looked at from a 'peak' perspective. If King Richards and many of the others between '70 and '90 played on the much better ODI pitches of the 90s and 00s, with a ton of protective gear, loads of rules restricting bowlers and helping the batsmen, and the miserable bowlers and attacks - all as in the 90s and 00s, they would have all got better figures than SRT. The King would have an average of 100 in ODIs - like The Don in Tests - with a strike-rate of 150+. Also SRT has opened again on the flattest tracks ever against the weakest England and New Zealand attacks. And then there were the worst attacks ever like those of Zimbabwe, Kenya, Bangladesh and Namibia too. His averages in reality in Aus vs Aus, in SA vs SA etc are in the 20s. STILL his average and s.r are significantly inferior to the King's. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.221.122.175 (talk) 18:10, 26 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

First of all, some of the "facts" you present are simply false. Although Tendulkar's average against South Africa in South Africa in ODIs is a (relatively) mediocre 26.10[1] his average against Australia in Australia in ODIs is in fact 34.33. [2] Secondly, the reason why the ICC Rankings for 2006 are not up is because they represent pretty much the lowest ICC Rankings he has achieved in his career, as the 2005-2006 period was one of the greatest form slumps Tendulkar has suffered. It would not be in any way indicative of his overall performance throughout his career. Furthermore, suggesting that SRT is not even in the top 20 ODI players of all time nor the top 100 Test players of all time not only goes against the bulk of statistical evidence (Top run scorer and century getter in both forms, 19th highest career average in Tests,[3] 12th highest career average in ODIs[4]) but also contradicts the wisdom of the vast majority of cricketers and cricket writers out there. Lastly, to respond to your comments regarding the minnows, recall that there have always been minnows (in Viv's time, it was Sri Lanka) and that they have always represented a fairly small portion of the total games played (365 of Tendulkar's 425 ODIs have taken place against Australia, South Africa, England, New Zealand, West Indies, Pakistan or Sri Lanka[5]) and that Zimbabwe was in fact quite a respectable team from the late 1990s up until the 2003 world cup. Notice also that even if all the minnows are ignored, Tendulkar's average in ODIs is still 42.43, and he still has 13960 runs and 33 centuries in ODIs which means even if you ignore all the runs he's made against the minnows he's still the top run scorer and century getter.[6] Similar results ensue if you carry out a similar analysis in Tests. Elostirion (talk) 01:14, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Padma Vibhushan

I feel all persons who got Padma Bhushan, padma Vibhushan, Padma Shri, Bharat Ratna should be named as respective honours that they've got i.e. we should write Padma Vibhushan Sachin Ramesh Tendulkar instead of Sachin Ramesh Tendulkar and also there should be a page named medals of merit by Indian government, Thank You

Agreed. But the title should be italicized to imply clearly that its a title and not part of the name. Wiki5d (talk) 07:50, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Translation into hindi

I am trying to translate this help will be appreciated. I apologize if this is inappropriate place to ask for help. I will be happy to post this request at the appropriate forum if someone points me to it Truetyper (talk) 01:52, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bowling

I think Mr S Tendulkar is a moderately effective bowler. Dont you think so? He can bowl a ball by crcling his arm. Sometimes batesman misjudge strokes. I havent seen batsmen stroking to well. Even if they were it produces no effective outcome. The frequency of stroking also decreases. This indicates Mr Tendulkar is good wih his hands to prevent others from stroking, For his leg breaks does he bowl right or left handed? Because of BLIC2005 it says Left handed but I wanna know.

He bowls all of his styles right-handed. It would be very freaky for someone to able to bowl with either hand. It would be incredibly handy to have such an ability. GizzaChat © 06:18, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]



u'll be freaked, that Sachin does!! yes, he is omnidexter~blah blah, u know what i mean. he has said that in many interviews. he can bat and bowl with both hands. sometimes in the field, he even throws with his left. however, at international level he always bowls and bats with his right hand. he writes with his left Quork 20:54, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think criticism and controversy should be merged

Controversy leads to criticism and criticism is often caused by conotroversy hence they are related. Any other thoughts? GizzaChat © 00:28, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ball Tampering Incident with Mike Denness

Has there been a discussion in wikipedia on the Mike Denness ball tampering episode that was bought on Sachin Tendulkar. If not, can i add a summary on the incident under the controversies section? good cricketKalyan 18:42, 27 February 2007 hello(UTC)

Done. Kalyan 13:17, 5 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Photos

The two photos are exact same (one of them is zoomed and cropped). One is described to be from 2005 at Chepauk Stadium, and the other from 2006 at Chidambaram Stadium. deeptrivia (talk) 15:16, 10 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

removed Kalyan 13:18, 5 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Shouldn't there be a close shot as well? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.95.58.70 (talk) 05:30, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Cake Incident

There is this very recent incident-him being photographed cutting a cake which looked like an indian tricolour. controversial. I've added a line about that in the controversies section-can someone elaborate. Wildpixs 05:39, 12 April 2007 (UTC) What about choice of Icecream? Is it quality or some foreign brand? All natiolasitic indians should consume kwality icecream made from indian cow milk as also amul butter. thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.68.30.2 (talk) 22:47, 5 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Is this incident of any significance? Does this need mention? The case was a result of the anguish from recent world cup exit and need for publicity from social activists. Unless there is some development which implicate Tendulkar and FIR is filed, i suggest that this sentence be removed. Kalyan 15:33, 13 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What is POV

I would like to know whether South Africa being the number 2 team is a reliable fact or a Point of View.  Doctor Bruno  02:19, 22 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know exactly what you are talking about. If, however, there is a claim of SA being the number 2 team in ODI cricket that is in fact fully supportable and not POV. [1] --LiamE 03:45, 22 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Formatting of the article

I feel that it would be better if we split up the international career part into Tests and ODI's like the records section. That would make it a lot better to present to the readers. Plz give your opinions abt this. Illidan reules 10:35, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

2nd best ever test batsman?

KNM - The lead claim of Sachin as the 2nd greatest Test batsman ever atributed to Wisden, as opposed to a Wisden article is massively overstating the case. It was one article using very specific criteria, giving lots of weight to high aggregates denied most cricketers of yesteryear, and throwing up some very idiosyncratic results. To claim that the source says Wisden and and not a Wisden article is silly. The source quoted is not a primary reference and should not be treated as such. To state it as "Wisden" as opposed to an article would suggest that there are no articles in Wisden that disagree.... and there are a great many articles in Wisden that do disagree. It isnt really for me to prove it was one article, it is for you to prove that that is the Wisden consensus which you are trying to validate from one second hand source. In a quick look I've found a Wisden article putting Dravid ahead of him so its questionable whether Wisden thinks he is the best batsman in the current Indian team let alone the second best ever. Other articles put solid cases for Hobbs, Hammond, Lara, Richards, Headley, Ponting and several others. Just for the record, although Sachin got second place in that list he was nowhere near Bradman. Bradman came in with a score of 1349, Sachin in second with 921.5, with several close behind him led by Richards with 913.9. If the same calculation were run again today, Sachin would most likey not make the top 5 as his average has dropped while the others in the top 5 would all get the same scores again. In addition Dravid and Ponting would no doubt be pushing for a place with their impressive form over recent years. --LiamE 03:16, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please see No Original Research. The entire case made by you above, just sounds like Original Research, and it doesn't help the debate here. The sentence in the article is supported with a citation. Thanks. - KNM Talk 03:25, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Only the last sentence is OR, the rest clearly is not. Do you think I pulled those numbers or names out of the air? As it stands I feel the article is overstating a second hand source. --LiamE 03:27, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Actually I'll give you OR on the last 2 sentences but the rest should be addressed. --LiamE 03:29, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
That's actually a good analysis, LiamE. Although I might agree on you, all your claims still remain personal opinions of two amateurs unless you can find some solid references backing them. I would be glad to see more Wisden articles analyzing Sachin's career and compared with other contemporaries. Gnanapiti 06:02, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Well the Wisden 5 cricketers of the century had 100 pundits on the voting panel. 4 of the 5 winners were batsmen and Tendulkar was not one of them. So I think we can say that Wisden's panel does not think he is definitively second. Since Bradman and Sobers were on 100 and 90 and Sobers might be classed as an allrounder but Hobbs and Richards were at least ahead of Tendulkar on that count. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 01:28, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for taking the time to read it. My concern is simply that the article overstates Wisden's position. It is unfortunate that the original article seems to be not available online. I have read it, and I have also read several other second hand sources referring to it. To my mind [2] is a far less partisan reading of the Wisden source. The cite given is clearly not neutral. Bradman heads a list by a sunday mile and the headline reads "Sachin the second best ever" Do you really need me to link other wisden/cricinfo artcles where cases for the others are put? I think that relying on partisan second hand source to back up an extravagant claim does a Sachin a mis-service and detracts from his article. "Exceptional claims require exceptional sources" is wiki policy. The second best ever batsman a big claim. As it stands it suggests that there is no dissent to that position at Wisden when their other articles prove otherwise. All I suggest is it is noted it was a particular article that is being referred to but KNM disputes that for what I can only assume are reasons of personnal bias on the matter. --LiamE 16:12, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It does seem to be giving WP:UNDUE weight to one article. To prove that it is only one Wisden article and not Wisden as a whole, I hope you can cite the other articles from Wisden which say otherwise. GizzaDiscuss © 02:16, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

tendulkar has played full 50 overs in a game???

has sachin tendulkar ever played full 50 overs starting from the first over till the last ball of the innings. if yes how many times has it been achieved. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.163.122.18 (talk) 05:35, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

how the hell can anyone play 50 overs? are you mad? Sai2020 10:48, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Even in a Test Match, he does not open, so he cannot play from the first over (unless 2 wickets fall in the very first over), but then the Indian innings would not last long enough for him to play 50 overs (that means the other 8 people have to play around 50 overs from the other end. Jokes apart, may be he means Carrying the Bat in ODI - I guess he has done that may be more than once at that, but I am not sure.167.131.0.194 (talk) 22:47, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

he has carried his bat during his 186* and 141* although i would not think that the 141* would need special mention. Shanbhag.rohan 06:48, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

POV Pushing by BInguyen

User BInguyen selectively removes references to good performance by Sachin. I request him to stop this POC pushing. All my edits are cited. Yet this user removes all valid points. Doctor Bruno  08:51, 15 October 2007 (UTC) BInguyen.. When you are selectively removing Sachin's good scores, why are you persisting with the poor scores.. and why are you removing the poor performance of Dravid. Your edits, especially with regard to Sachin and Dravid are totally biased. You remove sentences regarding the good performances of Sachin and poor performance of Dravid and you have been doing this repeatedly.  Doctor Bruno  08:57, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Tendulkar has played many games for full 50 overs one of which was against zimbawe in which he demolished olanga,s carrer

FA?

This shld be made into FA. Just use the standard set on Bhajjis page. Darrowen (talk) 01:24, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

First I'm going to go through and get rid of all the unnecessary stuff and weasel words etc. Then I'll add stuff. Darrowen (talk) 05:16, 12 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion

Will it be wise to move all the records and achievements to Achievements of Sachin Tendulkar or Records and Awards held by Sachin Tendulkar and to simply summarize the most notable ones here? Darrowen (talk) 06:10, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Photo?

There must be a better photo somewhere! If anyone is friendly with him or a fan club of sorts please request a photo be donated. Benjiboi 20:05, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

people are that lazy to not even look in Flickr? look what i found.. Sai2020 10:49, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

References

It would be helpful if a reference overhaul took place to format them all in the same style. Benjiboi 20:06, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

new pics

how are they? Sai2020 10:45, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect Numbers

Sachin's Career Aggregate and No. of Innings. As of January 17th 2008, Sachin's aggreagate was 11603 in 145 matches(and not 11606 in 144 matches). The average will of course change accordingly. Can someone fix that, this article is protected and I cannot change it.167.131.0.194 (talk) 22:57, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

: Looks like no one saw this until now - now it is 11616 runs in 145 matches and 235 innings at 55.31.71.236.190.42 (talk) 18:24, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done.DesiStrider (talk) 22:40, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Test centuries

Hi - i noticed that the information in the Test Centuries section of the article is a subset & pale comparison to the List of international cricket centuries by Sachin Tendulkar page. I think the Test centuries table is redundant. I think it should be removed

My 2 cents is that a different table - summarizing Sachin's test centuries against opponents would be a better fit for the main page because it would give an overview.

--Kalyan —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.8.222.82 (talk) 10:42, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed for removal of the centuries table, given that those details now has its own page, which in itself is a featured list. Anyone has any oppositions? - KNM Talk 07:22, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Since there was no opposition, I have gone ahead and removed the list of centuries, and added List of International cricket centuries by Sachin Tendulkar link in See Also section. - KNM Talk 18:40, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Last ODI?

Its rather presumptuous to list the last ODI as being 4 March 2008, the match isnt over yet and if Australia win it will be incorrect. Editing to show he is still active in this form of the game, for a few hours at least. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.217.13.50 (talk) 06:07, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I presume, you are referring to the Last ODI in the infobox. Well, there it actually means, the latest ODI and not as the last / final ODI of his career. IMO, his "last ODI" is still far away from now. - KNM Talk 07:20, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

UNSUPPORTED CLAIM OF GREATEST ODI PLAYER

I want to see the exact official article that states that Tendulkar was ranked the best ODI bat ever ahead of the incomparable King Viv. Till very recently, the 'great' Tendulkar averaged a tremendous 26 and 28 etc in Australia and South Africa and had a grand total of zero centuries on their soil and his only three centuries outside the dream-batting tracks of Asia came against formidable attacks like Zimbabwe and Kenya.

King Viv and many others played on much more difficult tracks, against much better bowlers, with no protective gear, and hardly any batsman-friendly rules. King Viv averaged around 50 all over Australia and other places and with a SR of 90+ when 30 and 70 were the hallmark of greatness. How then can Tendulkar with 40+ and 86 in an era where 90 seems to be the norm be ranked one? I shall tag the statement in the article if I do not see a valid reference (NOT another Wikipedia article) to it within the next two days.

I had said that I wanted a valid citation for Tendulkar being ranked 1 and King Viv at 2 in ODIs. King Viv was ranked 1 and still is by MOST non-Indian fans and many Indians as well, with Bevan at 2. Tendulkar has fattened his ODI stats with huge scores against weak attacks and on the great batting tracks of Asia. His averages are in the range of 26-28 against McGrath and Warne in Aus, while against Lillee, Thommo, Pascoe, Hogg, etc Viv averaged 48 with sr above 90.

This is not a site to write falsities and lies according to personal bias and 'patriotic' feelings.—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Anup RamakrishnanAnup Ramakrishnan (talk) 19:56, 11 March 2008 (UTC)|Anup RamakrishnanAnup Ramakrishnan (talk) 19:56, 11 March 2008 (UTC)]] ([[User talk:Anup RamakrishnanAnup Ramakrishnan (talk) 19:56, 11 March 2008 (UTC)|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Anup RamakrishnanAnup Ramakrishnan (talk) 19:56, 11 March 2008 (UTC)|contribs]]) [reply]

Well, some guys struggle more on slow and low tracks. eg Ponting in India. Also a lot of players slow down in the middle overs when the slow bowlers come on. Blnguyen (vote in the photo straw poll) 01:11, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
When Viv richards played, he did not got any kind of pressure, his team the best and he got excellent support from openers and above all he does not have pressure from people. Apart from it technology which is playing number one part in present game. Richards has excaped other teams seeing his batting style and analyasing his defects. Even though richards great player in those days, getting other player for bowlers was equally hard. More Over, west indies team has number one piece of bowling with marshall, ambrose, walsh and others, Tendulukar never had this advantage.
On the other hand Sachin is facing severe pressure form teammate, most of the times, India will make good score only if Sachin plays(no matter India wins are looses). Sachin has to play more number of games per year, he did not get chance to practice under great bowlers like ambrose, walsh, marshall.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.171.68.25 (talkcontribs)

Yes, all those pressure of a poor batting line-up and of expectations from 1 billion+ people of the country blah blah blah blah .... Hear it so often from biased Tendulkar fans.

Tendulkar batting on good batting tracks has been hit by Waqar, Aaqib, Donald, Shoaib, Lee, Jones so on and on. On treacherous, uncovered tracks, King Viv battled the fastest and best ever bowlers like Thommo, Lillee, Pascoe, Hogg, Gilmour, Walker, Malone, Prior, Snow, Willis, Dilley, Botham, Imran, Nawaz, Kapil, Hadlee in both the unofficial Packer Series and otherwise. In the Packer Series he took on Procter and LeRoux of South Africa in addition to those above, and dismantled all these men in the toughest batting conditions without even a helmet. Tendulkar would not have lasted even two deliveries in those conditions. Even the biggest moron alive will tell you whether batting was more difficult in the 70s/80s and earlier or after 1990.

In the '90 and after period, Tendulkar had one to all of Azharuddin, Ganguly, Dravid, Laxman, Sehwag etc to support him - the second best lineups of the 90s after those of Australia, and much better than those from West Indies, England, New Zealand, and superior to South Africa, Sri Lanka and Pakistan as well.

And speaking of the 1 billion+ population, half of them do not get to eat two square meals a day, and his 'care' for the nation was well illustrated during the Ferrari Car Tax concession....

This page is quite easily the most C-grade and substandard page I have ever visited on this site. I have read and posted on quite a few topics and on many more pages, but have not seen any even remotely as cheap, biased, sullying and pathetic as this.

Shut up and get lost, I have never come across a more pathetic idiot like you.

Though I am Indian, my sense of 'patriotism' stretches far beyond adoring a scumbag who at worth over 200 crores INR shows his true bloodlines and class by seeking a rebate of 1.12 crores of tax on a free gift. FACT remains - and this is for ALL Tendulkar fans to know that this man is not a matchwinner one of the most essential qualities for a batsman to be among the greatest ever. Despite playing all his career on good batting pitches, with loads of protective gear, so many batsmen-protecting rules, and inferior bowlers.

His averages and SR in ODIs are still inferior to Vivian Richards', who had figures of 48 and 90+ across all cricket-playing nations, when 30 and 70 respectively were great figures, and was neither a home-bully nor a flat-track bully like Tendulkar. He played in an era of uncovered, difficult pitches, without even a helmet, no batsman-friendly rules and against far better attacks. His era saw Australia, England, India and New Zealand all have superior attacks to those they had in the 90s and this decade. Even Pakistan had a better attack, while South Africa were not playing, and Sri Lanka hardly played or figured. Look up how many Tendulkar has plundered against weak attacks like Zimbabwe and Kenya etc.

Till now I was civil in my posting but I shall rip this page apart if wrongful assertions are forced down anybody's throat without valid citations ever ever ever again only to glorify this most overrated batsman, player and person in the history of Modern Sport. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anup Ramakrishnan (talkcontribs) 00:30, 18 March 2008 (UTC) [reply]

--Sounds like someone is bitter! 'Scumbag'? Don't for a moment think that your petty emotional ramblings and pathetic threats ('I will rip this page apart...') will somehow help moderate this page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.10.192.78 (talk) 19:31, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

LAST CALL

Okay, this is the very last instance that I am just reverting the last edit. I shall report this page and resort to other drastic measures if I do not find the citation for a fact that never was - that he was chosen the best ODI batsman ever. He WAS NOT, there is no way in hell he can be - a man who averages a pathetic 26 to 28 in ODIs against Aus, SA, Eng etc in their grounds, with a grand 3 centuries outside the batsman friendly tracks of Asia, that too against teams like Zimbabwe, Kenya etc, is far from being the greatest ODI bat ever. KING Vivian Richards was voted the best ODI batsman ever by Wisden in 2002, and that is the bottomline that some of you pathetic fans of this man cannot digest. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anup Ramakrishnan (talkcontribs) 14:54, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Please restrain your langauage. Please state your requirement in 2 simple sentences. If you are looking for proof on Sachin being the best ODI batsman, please find the same here. With regards to the quality of the article, i absolutely agree. I fixed the contents of his early life, stats, created a seperate page listing his ODI MoM awards, business and awards. I didn't have time to fix his long career. Instead of writing strong statements deploring the current state of affairs, please go ahead and fix the article. --Kalyan (talk) 13:24, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

--What a pathetic 'fan' of Viv this Anup Ramakrishnan is. I'm sure Viv would be embarassed himself if he read these ramblings. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.10.192.78 (talk) 19:33, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • What actually seems pathetic to me, is the way you abuse Sachin fans. You scream at them for being supposedly 'biased' towards Tendulkar, while you yourself (ironically) delete swaves of information so that your hero King Viv is portrayed on Wikipedia as the better cricketer. Pathetic, honestly. A Prodigy ~In Pursuit of Perfection~ 18:25, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]


this anup ramakrishnan says tendulkar avgs 26-28 againist SA/ENG/AUS......he avgs 46 againist AUS,41 aaginist eng and 31 againsit SA

in their own grounds he avgs in aus 37,in eng 43 and in SA 39.......only 16 of his centuries are scored in India.....his test record is even better........[7] [8]


as regards to his bad record againist SA well some times some players do not have a great record againist one particular team.many greats have struggled againist one team or another.

Viv richards didnt had to play the best boweling line up of his time coz he played with them.his record againist Pakistan is ordinary chek[9] [10]

20 : 20 statistics

i think his 20:20 statistics need to be added too.also what about creating a template : infobox for all cricketers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Itsjustajoy (talkcontribs) 07:24, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Come pn man,you just cannot be rude and crticise a man who is n times a btter human being than u..ur thoughts r mud in front of his gr8ness and achievments. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jacktanu (talkcontribs) 22:47, 13 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Article Style

I think the article style is less encyclopaedic and more like that of a fan site. Take a look at the subheadings:

  • Rise through the ranks
  • injuries and decline
  • return to form.

Also there are many unreferenced credits . The very second paragraph is on "Playing style" whereas the general tendecy is to have a sportsman's life history after the introduction. Can someone please look into this? --Deepak D'Souza (talkcontribs) 07:28, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I need to point out an obvious error. Also, why has the ability to edit thie main article been taken away?

The part where it states that Sachin "Would often get bored of practice" is utter rubbish. A slap to whoever put that. There have been accounts by several coaches and team-mates recalling instances when Sachin would be up at midnight batting alone in the nets. I am not being biased towards him, but it is overwhelmingly clear that as a child, he couldn't get enough out of cricket.

Coach Acharekar (I believe) would only place a coin on the stumps when Sachin was near exhausted, to try and spur him on to keep fighting. If anyone can, please edit out the current mistake and add my above revision. My source is the biography of Sachin by Vaibhav Purandare.

A Prodigy (talk) 13:36, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to go ahead and modify/delete the line. If you are modifying it, it would help if you add the source - book, author, page number, ISBN etc. I hope you know the format, if not just leave a message here and one of us can show you how. Tintin 13:48, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The thing is I CAN'T edit the page and I don't know why that ability is gone, any help anyone? A Prodigy (talk) 18:32, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The reason for that is, the article is semi-protected, meaning unregistered and new users cannot edit the article. - KNM Talk 14:53, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I've removed "Would often get bored of practice" sentence from the article. Cheers - KNM Talk 14:55, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
OK I was able to edit the main article some time ago, this problem has been resolved :). A Prodigy (tcm) 19:16, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Vighnaharta Shri Siddhivinayak movie

Look at this article. His cameo role in the movie (his debut movie) can be mentioned somewhere in the article. DockHi 14:59, 29 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The name as written in hindi, सिचन, is pronounced 'sichan', and not Sachin. The correct way of writing it is 'सचिन'. I cannot edit the page from here, some problem with my IP, I suppose. Can somebody please correct it rightaway?

128.42.163.73 (talk) 16:14, 14 August 2008 (UTC) Charu. 14th August 2008. 11.15 am. Houston.[reply]

About Sachin's background:

Even though he is from born up in a middle class SARASWATH BRAHMIN family. why is it not put up in the article? Can you please add that information in the article.somebody has deleted it from the article. (SHIVANANADA (talk) 01:51, 29 August 2008 (UTC)ShivanandaSHIVANANADA (talk) 01:51, 29 August 2008 (UTC))[reply]


SACHIN did nt play bangladesh series after 2007 WC...It is wrongly return in the article —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.92.8.121 (talk) 16:23, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

.I Love To Sachin Tendurkar. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.96.71.213 (talk) 07:09, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Better Front looking Photo

I think we can have a better looking front face photo of Sachin. kindly upload and update if any one has Kkoolpatz (talk) 18:45, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What is exactly wrong with the current image? The quality is good, and it shows enough of Sachin's face to pass for me. Blooded Edge Sign/Talk 19:40, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
His face is in the shadow of his hat - surely someone can whistle up a better photo that this. One of him playing cricket perhaps ? Far Canal (talk) 02:44, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

adding site to answer sachin's critics

I found an excellent, may be the best ever site on Sachin Tendulkar. www.sachinandcritics.com and added it in the external link. but it got deleted thrice. What is this... the official site is not working... if it is working, it is not so great when compared with sachinandcritics.com it is to silence the critics. Check it... why it has been removed? --218.248.68.63 (talk) 07:24, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Did you add it to the External links section? If not, that may have been why. But if you did, I personally cannot think of a reason as by which someone would delete it by -_-. Blooded Edge Sign/Talk 22:05, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Then any one add the link of the site... www.sachinandcritics.com on external links... with this quote- 'site for answering the critics of Sachin Tendulkar' --Harimaheswar (talk) 13:31, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Apart from being a horrific abuse of the template syntax (!), this template is redundant in the infobox on this page as Sambot now updates statistics weekly. Sambot thinks the template is a reference or suchlike and so ignores it, leaving a mess. I removed the template before, but someone (I don't know who) re-added it. It would be great if people could avoid changing this again.

Thanks,

Sam Korn (smoddy) 10:48, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

List of leading run-scorers in test cricket

Would someone like to make the article with the list? Couple of helps - [3][4] 62.64.213.206 (talk) 20:48, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have expressed surprose on this at Talk:List of cricket batting averages.--Peter cohen (talk) 20:58, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Actually looking at things, there are navigation boxes at the bottom of bowler pages for >=400 wickets and >=700 wickets. Shouldn't there be one for >= 10K test runs?--Peter cohen (talk) 08:05, 18 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Small correction in 'Career Achievements'

On surpassing the highest number of test runs, Tendulkar said "It is definitely the biggest achievement as it has taken me 19 years to get the record” which is different from what is written on this page (“It is definitely the biggest achievement in 19 years of my career”) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kvpradeep689 (talkcontribs) 18:00, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Split up the article

The article is massive and there are multiple references to some of his records (across the article). So maybe I will start cleaning up the introduction and then move out some of his records to the other related articles like Achievements of Sachin Tendulkar. ajoy (talk) 08:18, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The article is not long at all. YellowMonkey (click here to choose Australia's next top model!) 01:04, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
c60K including all the gunk that doesn't count towards recommended limits means there's no pressure to split yet.--Peter cohen (talk) 10:08, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Small Information change needed.

In the http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Sachin_Tendulkar#Early_years_and_personal_life page the line "Tendulkar was born in Mumbai (now Mumbai)." has to be "Tendulkar was born in Bombay (now Mumbai)."

Small Information change needed.

In the http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Sachin_Tendulkar#Early_years_and_personal_life page the line "Tendulkar was born in Mumbai (now Mumbai)." has to be "Tendulkar was born in Bombay (now Mumbai)." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vivekthangaswamy (talkcontribs) 05:40, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Editsemiprotected

Sharad Pawar had mentioned that when Tendulkar was asked if wanted Captaincy after Rahul Dravid resigned in 2007, Sachin simnply refused and said that Dhoni be made captain.Rishiravani (talk) 20:59, 11 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tendlya

{{editsemiprotected}} Sachin is also nick named "Tendlya".

 Not done at the moment, please provide a source for that nickname to reference it. ~ mazca t|c 20:33, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Source

Sachin's nick name is Tendlya.BalanceΩrestored Talk 10:46, 15 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Updated Test Century

Sachin Just completed 1 more century [11]. That now makes 41 test century. BalanceΩrestored Talk 10:36, 15 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The link in the external links section at the bottom of the article saying 'Sachin Tendulkar Official Site' links to a site which is not by any means official. It is just a site maintained by a fan (Refer: http://tendulkar.co.in/index.php/about/). To suggest that the site is by any way promoted or sanctioned by Sachin Tendulkar by terming it official is wrong. It needs to be corrected right away. Thanks.

(Maulikt (talk) 22:38, 30 January 2009 (UTC))[reply]

Another editor has removed that link altogether. So no lasting harm done? Blooded Edge Contact 17:23, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Career achievements

This section could be added to, particularly when stating that Sachin's efforts have been a major part of Indian victories. % of team runs scored by Sachin during victories, or during any games, and number of centuries scored in a winning cause over a losing one - stats like that could be useful here. SGGH ping! 14:56, 4 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tendulkar's achievements has its own article: Achievements of Sachin Tendulkar. Dapi89 (talk) 23:34, 16 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

adaptibilty

there's not anything mentioned about sachin's new innovations, like the fours he hit over Gilly's head off Brett Lee in the 2008 CB Series Finals. Or the the way he curved his bat in IPL 2009 to direct a fullish ball through the vacatn fourth-slip to gully area. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.124.247.56 (talk) 10:48, 3 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Missing citation

{{editsemiprotected}}

Citation to this part "When he was young, Tendulkar would practice for hours on end in the nets. If he became exhausted, Achrekar would put a one-Rupee-coin on the top of the stumps, and the bowler who dismissed Tendulkar would get the coin. If Tendulkar passed the whole session without getting dismissed, the coach would give him the coin. Tendulkar now considers the 13 coins he won then as some of his most prized possessions."

http://www.merinews.com/catFull.jsp?articleID=145044 Sultanofhyd (talk) 14:24, 3 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

 Done. Thanks! haz (talk) 18:59, 3 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Should IPL be in the "domestic career" section?

Seems out of place and is a big jump in the narrative. Shreevatsa (talk) 19:47, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

 Done I've boldly gone ahead and made it a new section. Shreevatsa (talk) 03:01, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sachin and Viv