Draft talk:RIP (film)
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The only coverage of this film in the article is its casting and annoucement of a distributor, both routine activities, there isn't anything notable about the production itself that would warrant the film an article much before its release. I was trying to avoid moving it here, but another user felt the tag shouldn't be there potentially until the film's release. 331dot (talk) 01:43, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Again, I beg to differ and I would have thought better to wait for the response from the page creator. You seem to be confusing notablility of production (coverage about the plot, cast [extremely notable here, needless to say], what you call ’routine’) and existence of extraordinary events related to a film production (accidents, strike, etc). I will not restore the page myself but if it is moved again to the Main, I will consider it’s a fair decision. -Mushy Yank. 05:18, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- There is no requirement that one wait for comment from the initial page creator(which in many cases is not practical). I was willing to leave it with a tag but you were not and I felt it was untenable to leave it without a tag when it clearly isn't notable yet. Notability is not inherited by association(i.e. having notable cast members).
- Almost all film productions announce at least some of the cast, crew, and distributor. Those are routine things to announce and not unique or unusual. If that renders a film notable before its release then WP:NFF is meaningless. I don't think there needs to be an "extraordinary event"(like there was with Rust (2024 film) which had an article long before release for its extraordinary event) but there needs to be coverage beyond routine announcements. 331dot (talk) 08:33, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Indeed, there is no requirement. I just thought it would have been better, but there’s nothing wrong with moving it. I don’t think NFF is meaningless; not every film has Affleck and Damon (and notability may not be inherited, but a film with such a cast is more likely to receive coverage than one with unknown actors) in its cast and is covered in every film magazine when filming starts. But thanks. -Mushy Yank. 13:06, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Simply responding since I got a Talk page ping in the preceding discussion, but I have no objection to moving back to draft. I created the draft, but I did not make the move to main myself. I thought it may have been early, but figured a patroller would make a judgement independently. -2pou (talk) 01:35, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- Indeed, there is no requirement. I just thought it would have been better, but there’s nothing wrong with moving it. I don’t think NFF is meaningless; not every film has Affleck and Damon (and notability may not be inherited, but a film with such a cast is more likely to receive coverage than one with unknown actors) in its cast and is covered in every film magazine when filming starts. But thanks. -Mushy Yank. 13:06, 31 December 2024 (UTC)