Draft talk:Antisemitism in Germany
Philo-Semitism?
[edit]I am a complete ignoramus on the subject, and know very little German, let alone Yiddish, but I seem to recall that Germany or the German states also had some episodes or history of philo-Semitism. Obviously that shouldn't be the principal emphasis of this article, but maybe it fits somewhere in your list of topics and wikilinks. @Elinruby: —— Shakescene (talk) 01:57, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
- I studied German in college, but was never fluent. I have gotten through a translation I needed once, with a dictionary and a fair amount of difficulty. Apart from my advice on my talk page to start with a smaller geographical scope, my main thought at the moment is that the rough outline jumps from 1614 to World War I. My limited knowledge of the antisemitism topic (some editing on bad machine translations of articles about the Catholic Monarchs expelling Jews) says there is probably material about this period that should be included however. France was deeply embroiled in the Wars of Religion, when people really cared what other people believed. Given the incestuous nature of the European aristocracy, it also strikes me as possible the the Holy Roman Empire (we considering that "Germany", yes?) held power in Austria or Italy or the Iberian Peninsula and took some measures that would qualify. I would need to do some significant research to even start. Narrowing the scope might also preclude any confusion as to what the topic is in World War II Galicia, if that could be a problem. Elinruby (talk) 02:25, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
- Some of the authors I’ve read about the German Reformation and about Nazism attribute some anti-Semitism in Martin Luther's writings, which would push you back into the 16th century. I don't have citations, or time to look them up right now, but it might interest you (you could ask a ChatBot something like "What did Martin Luther write about the Jews and Judaism ?") —— Shakescene (talk) 15:57, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
- See, for example, Martin Luther and antisemitism, On the Jews and Their Lies [text at, inter alia, https://web.archive.org/web/20050103042654/http://jdstone.org/cr/pages/sss_mluther.html] and (from the other end of the telescope) Antisemitism in 21st-century Germany —— Shakescene (talk) 17:50, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
- Some of the authors I’ve read about the German Reformation and about Nazism attribute some anti-Semitism in Martin Luther's writings, which would push you back into the 16th century. I don't have citations, or time to look them up right now, but it might interest you (you could ask a ChatBot something like "What did Martin Luther write about the Jews and Judaism ?") —— Shakescene (talk) 15:57, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
- I studied German in college, but was never fluent. I have gotten through a translation I needed once, with a dictionary and a fair amount of difficulty. Apart from my advice on my talk page to start with a smaller geographical scope, my main thought at the moment is that the rough outline jumps from 1614 to World War I. My limited knowledge of the antisemitism topic (some editing on bad machine translations of articles about the Catholic Monarchs expelling Jews) says there is probably material about this period that should be included however. France was deeply embroiled in the Wars of Religion, when people really cared what other people believed. Given the incestuous nature of the European aristocracy, it also strikes me as possible the the Holy Roman Empire (we considering that "Germany", yes?) held power in Austria or Italy or the Iberian Peninsula and took some measures that would qualify. I would need to do some significant research to even start. Narrowing the scope might also preclude any confusion as to what the topic is in World War II Galicia, if that could be a problem. Elinruby (talk) 02:25, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
Sources
[edit]Lots. GS: [1] Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:45, 26 November 2024 (UTC)