Category talk:New Thought churches

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Why is this category a subcategory of Nontrinitarian denominations / Christian denominations? That is incorrect.

While some New Thought denominations (notably Unity School of Christianity) are arguably in that "tree", not all of them are ... notably Huna, Psychiana and Seicho-No-Ie. Each of these incorporates both Christian and non-Christian beliefs in eclectic mixtures. Many Religious Science churches also do not exclusively subscribe to Christian beliefs.

New Thought is a whole family of denominations with identifiable beliefs that can and do exist under multiple theologies and so should not be exclusively under any of them. Placing New Thought churches under Christianity is like placing Calculus under Geometry.

I must say that "incorporates both Christian and non-Christian beliefs in eclectic mixtures" and "do not exclusively subscribe to Christian beliefs" sounds Nontrinitarian to me.

Nontrinitarian basicly means that they do not subscribe to a belief-- the Trinity. The purpose of the category tree is not to convey infomation per say; the purpose of the category tree is to find articles that one is looking for. While no one will look in Category:Christian denominations/Nontrinitarian denominations for Islam, they will look there for New Thought churches and most other things with the name "churches". --Carlaude ^talk 09:40, 8 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Respectfully I disagree. Non-Trinitarian still makes them Christian, ie: believing that Jesus is the way to Salvation, God and Heaven. Many NTers believe Jesus was a great teacher and like those teachings but they also feel that Budha, various Native American shamans, certain yogi's etc... are great teachers with lessons equally valid as Jesus'.

Muslims believe Jesus was a wise Prophet of God (but not the Son of God) equal to Abraham and Moses and some of his teachings are in the Quoran so one could say that Islam incorporates both Christian and non-Christian beliefs. Would you classify Islam as Non-Trinitarian? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.102.206.114 (talk) 00:01, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I guess I have news for you then. Most-- if not all Nontrinitarians-- think Jesus was a great teacher and not the "Way" to salvation— except in a general way, i.e. via his teachings. Only Oneness Pentecostals are apt to still consider him the Way. While they are not trinitarians they do hold Jesus was fully God, and thus able to personlly save us. Other Nontrinitarians hold Jesus was not fully God.

I will also point out that it is also pretty debatable if Nontrinitarians are even Christian— so I also have to disagree that being Non-Trinitarians could make them/you Christian. (Most of the groups in the Nontrinitarian denominations category, however, do want to be considered Christian.)

As for is Islam, yes they are Nontrinitarians and would tell you so also. It is just not necessary to put them in them there because people are not apt to try to find them while looking for them there. --Carlaude ^talk 04:23, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]