Category talk:Logicians

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Hegel a logician?

I oppose Hegel's inclusion in this category.

True: Hegel called parts of his philosophy "logic".

True: There are no completely precise and universally accepted criteria as to what is and what isn't logic.

But: The parts of Hegel's philosophical output which he called "logic" are so dramatically different from what anybody else in the category produced, and from the methodological standards anybody else in the category upheld, that Hegel shouldn't be in here. Calling something "logic" does not make it logic.

--Skon 16:38, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If the categories were more precisely defined, we might have separate categories for Mathematical or Symbolic Logicians such as Kurt Gödel (who generally express logical argument using symbols) and Philosophical Logicians such as Wittgenstein and Hegel (who explore the structure of logical argument using words). Many, perhaps most, of the logicians in this category are mathematical logicians (which is possibly but not necessarily the same as mathematicians and logicians). But I think Wikipedia's category system is much too crude to support this degree of refinement. See my comment below. --RichardVeryard 09:54, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There is a strong anti-Hegel POV within Anglo-American twentieth-century philosophy, and so the inclusion/exclusion of Hegel is potentially a POV question. --RichardVeryard 09:54, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Subcategories

You'd have thought that this category would be the most logical one in Wikipedia. Or perhaps you wouldn't. I am puzzled why some logicians are categorized by (one or more) nationality and some aren't. Ludwig Wittgenstein is under "Logicians" and both "Austrian philosophers" and "British philosophers", while Kurt Gödel (described on his own page as "one of the most significant logicians of all time") is under "Austrian logicians" and "American mathematicians" but not "Logicians". --RichardVeryard 13:06, 3 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Just to clarify my point here. I do not think this is a problem that can be fixed merely by recategorizing a couple of well-known logicians. Given the way these overlapping categories have been designed, it is almost inevitable that such anomalies will exist. --RichardVeryard 11:32, 6 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Why isn't Frege listed here?

Why isn't Frege listed here? Or, in other words, Why isn't Frege listed here? Furthermore, Why isn't Frege listed here? So basically I just wonder: Why isn't Frege listed here?

T85.166.160.236 (talk) 21:47, 26 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]