Category talk:Existing battleships

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Inclusion of pre-battleships?[edit]

HMS Warrior (1860) is in this category, but Huáscar (ironclad) isn't. They were both build in the mid 19th century and are both armored machine-powered ships which were (I think) capital ships and the largest strongest units afloat. Is that a battleship? In any case they should both be in or neither.

FWIW the Warrior had old fashion ship-of-the-line gun layout, while the Huáscar was built a few years later and actually had turrets.

They were the precursors to battleships. So was HMS Victory possibly, altho she's a hundred years older, was not armored, and of course had no machinery. (FWIW Ships-of-the-line were also called line-of-battle-ships (which actually is the source of the term "battle-ship" I believe).

I'd include all three, on the grounds that they would likely be of interest to people searching the category, and the category is not too large. I mean you could rename the category to "Existing battleships and pre-battleships" or "Existing gun-armed capital ships which are museums" or something I guess and that would automatically include those three. But I don't like long category names, and these three are close enough to battleships to fit in and still be a service to the reader. Absent objection I propose to do so presently. Herostratus (talk) 01:20, 11 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]