Category talk:Eastern European theatre of World War II

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The issue with having long, and therefore somewhat general titles for categories is the selection of articles under Category:World War II Eastern European Theatre (see continuation of my post there). In reality the author should as a question before assigning the category, "Was it influential on the category in the greater sceme of things?" The Eastern European Theatre includes (my bold for those that I think belong):

• sub-category Operation Tempest - should be under the Campaign for which the Germans were preparing the defense that the Poles were trying to nutralise.
  
• Category:Warsaw Uprising which was more significant in the context of Battles and operations of the Eastern Front of World War II then the context of the entire Theatre.
• Battle of Berlin - was a Soviet strategic Offensive hence the need to create the operational and tactical level, it did affect the later borders of occupation territories
• Battle in Berlin - but was it significant to the Theatre? In hind sense it seems its inclusion belongs in the battles and operations, particularly since the Soviet Offensive was composed of five distinct operational Operations, one of which is listed below as Battle of the Seelow Heights, which makes it sound like a tactical fight for some hills.
• Bielski partisans - numbering 1,230 men, which is a regiment, so was hardly crucial to the Theatre
• Budapest Offensive - yes, most definitely belongs since it included within it another five smaller operations
• Captured German equipment in Soviet use on the Eastern front - if the Allied Lend-Lease is not considered important to the Theatre, why would this be?
• Military history of Croatia - Is it that important to the Theatre? Some Croatians served on the Eastern Front, but not in the numbers that woudl have changed its course.
• Occupation of Czechoslovakia by Nazi Germany - yes, because it contributed significantly by supplying equipment to Germans
• First anti-partisan offensive - was "a battle during World War II between Partisans on one side and German and Chetnik troops on the other side." Firstly anything that happened in Yugoslavia (to take nothing away from the valour of the partisans) hardly had any effect on the Theatre in the larger sense. However, if someone thought that the 'battles' was significant, why no listing of the 250,000 partisans in Belorus? In any case, it could not have been that significant to the Theatre because within two months the two active Wehrmacht divisions left.
• Great Patriotic War (term) - is dealt with in other articles.
• Military history of Greece during World War II - Is Greece in Eastern Europe? I thought it was in the Mediterranean Theatre?
• Battle of Halbe - where 80,000 Wehrmacht troops tried to break out of an encirclement. Was not significant to the Theatre, and belongs under German Battles and Operations
• Hungary during the Second World War - yes
• Kamenets-Podolsky Pocket - If there was a map, it would be easily seen that this was an operation significant to the German Campaign in the South, but owing to its extremely South-Western Ukraine position would not have affected the Theatre.
• Kerch-Eltigen Operation - I really like the map. However the Soviet division shown had landed only 4,000 troops in all at Eltigen. In any case Crimea even if held by Germans would not have affected the Theatre.
• Košice attack - this really belongs in the political section somewhere
• Lapland War - was this significant to the Theatre? Maybe to Finland.
• Legion of French Volunteers Against Bolshevism - Hmmm, maybe if it was Grande Armee of French Volunteers Against Bolshevism :o)
• Lublin-Brest Offensive - this was a part of the Operation Bagration which is not here.
• Lvov-Sandomierz Offensive - yes, this was Stalin's 6th Strike
• Military history of Carpathian Ruthenia during World War II - Maybe important to Romania, but not to the Theatre since presumably it has a history longer then 4 years.
• Military history of Leningrad Oblast during World War II - not relevant to the Theatre. The relevant part should be covered by the Siege of Leningrad as a Campaign
• Bombing of Minsk in World War II - not relevant to Theatre as this was a German Operation eclipsed by the much larger land Campaign scope.
• Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact - yes
• Battle of Neretva - In fact this shoudl be renames since it is the Fourth counter-partisan offensive in Yugoslavia, and this time there were 20,000 partisans so indefinably not a battle, but also not significant to the Theatre
• Occupation of Latvia by Nazi Germany - was this significant? I have my doubts.
• Battle of the Oder-Neisse - this is another disassociated part to the Berlin Offensive
• Prague Offensive - this Offensive ended after the surrender by Germany, so could not have been that important.
• Prague uprising - this begun on the 5th of May!
• Reichskommissariat Kaukasus - never happened
• Reichskommissariat Moskau - never happened
• Reichskommissariat Ostland - probably significant since it administered a huge part of the occupied Soviet territory
• Reichskommissariat Ukraine - probably significant since it administered a huge part of the occupied Soviet territory
• Romania during World War II - yes
• Second anti-partisan offensive - no for the same reason as the first Offensive
• Battle of the Seelow Heights - as above
• Sixth anti-partisan offensive - as for other anti-partisan operations
• Slovak National Uprising - I'm in two minds about this. The uprising was large enough to tie down significant German forces for the period when they really coudl have used them in that particular sector of the front. It may have been significant in that on deeper analysis it may have hastened Soviet advance.
• Slovak Republic (1939–1945) - probably not important
• Soviet Tankmen's Song - obviously important to Soviet tankmen, but...:o)
• Sutjeska offensive - or the Fifth enemy offensive, so why doesn't it say so for consistency sake?
• Operation Tanne Ost - was "German operation to capture the island Suursaari (Swedish Hogland, Russian Gogland) in the Gulf of Finland before it could fall into Soviet hands. Suursaari was especially important because it worked as a lock in the Finnish gulf guarding the minefields keeping the Soviet Baltic Navy in Kronstadt.", yes, but would the Soviet Baltic Fleet have had a Theatre wide significance had it escaped? No.
• Third anti-partisan offensive - no, for same reason as the other five
• Battle of Tornio - "was the first major engagement between Nazi Germany and Finland in the Lapland War", need I say no?
• Vienna Awards - maybe in the broader interpretation of 'Theatre' but in the military interpretation?
• Vienna Offensive - probably yes since it was a major operation by a Front.

Be happy to discuss :O)-- mrg3105mrg3105 07:42, 5 January 2008 (UTC)