User talk:Preslethe

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RfA thanks

Thank you very much for participating in my RFA, which closed successfully today with a result of (62/18/3). I will go very carefully at first, trying to make sure I don't mess up too badly using the tools, and will begin by re-reading all the high-quality feedback I received during the process, not least from those who opposed me. Any further advice/guidance will be gratefully accepted. I hope I will live up to your trust! Guinnog 14:58, 30 August 2006 (UTC)}

Barnstar question

How do you get a barnstar?

Wi-king 16:03, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi, Wi-king. For you to get a barnstar, someone should award you one—or, I suppose, you could award one to yourself. See Wikipedia:Barnstars. — President Lethe 16:34, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

RAF Northolt

I didn't remove the audio because it was outdated but because it was a redlink which I now see got changed/vandalised a month ago. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 00:48, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Ah, O.K. Thanks for letting me know. — President Lethe 01:12, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

No problem

Hi, and thank you for saying thank you ;-). I also would like apologize if my edit summary sounded a bit harsh. I just tried to "shortened" what I meant to say. I do appreciate the hard work you put in the US article and the mistake of confusing population with households is actually quite common. Have a good one... Regards, Signature^brendel 05:25, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

La Amistad

Greetings. Good work on the grammar/clarity of the La Amistad article. In the text for that article you asked about the legality of human trafficking at the time of the La Amistad incident, and I wanted to let you know I've changed that text and commented on the article's talk page. I also changed a bit of the text in the paragraph that describes La Amistad as a slave ship to make it somewhere between the original and the changes you made so that the article would express as clearly as possible the difference between La Amistad and a "true" slave ship. Thanks. Geeman 10:18, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Date linking

Hi. I wondered if you would be interested in contributing to User talk:Guinnog/date linking? --Guinnog 18:28, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Doing something about the ridiculous date autoformatting/linking mess

Dear Preslethe—you may be interested in putting your name to, or at least commenting on this new push to get the developers to create a parallel syntax that separates autoformatting and linking functions. IMV, it would go a long way towards fixing the untidy blueing of trivial chronological items, and would probably calm the nastiness between the anti- and pro-linking factions in the project. The proposal is to retain the existing function, to reduce the risk of objection from pro-linkers. Tony 04:53, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Re: your comments on the date/time issue about choosing a single format

I agree with you. Problem is, there have been massive discussions over the same thing in regards to CE/AD and even as you mention American English/British English spelling. In fact, "color" and "colour" are both allowed in wikipedia and none is recommended over the other. I prefer consistency in all aspects, and would prefer for a specific form of English and a specific CE/AD time period to be chosen, etc., etc. Do you think we should start some comprehensive movement on this? I would be willing to join you in that. But I anticipate that fight to be *much* harder than the current one of just de-linking dates, which I think is also important and easier to accomplish if we don't try and change the existing consensus on everything from date time formats to English spelling to unit consistency. --MattWright (talk) 03:54, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi there.

Yes, both spellings are accepted (though there are recommendations about when to use which). But my main point is that we don't have any silly game of linking the words and having special display for their spelling. Having different national spellings doesn't bother me. I'm also not bothered by reading the date in different ways, as long as it's properly punctuated. But I am quite tired of how much I and others have spent time and effort on such a thing.

The main reason for which the battle to delink dates right now is so hard is that people are hung up on the idea of having specialized date display encoding.

If we completely removed the option of specialized display (apart from using a standard old piped link) from the table, people would be stuck with the sole question of whether a cross-reference was relevant. This would be true even if we allowed both "December 10" and "10 December" (regardless of cross-referencing). They might still fight about it; but at least they'd be fighting only about the relevance of cross-referencing.

My reason for suggesting a standard also for writing even non-linked dates is just to get the main benefit of standardization: one rule for everyone to play by, and the ability to direct any 'deviants' to the rulebook. We all drive on one side of the road within one country not because it's morally right to be on that side as opposed to the other, but simply because standardization makes it easier to deal with more-important things.

I would accept multiple standards for writing non-linked dates, as long as there were rules about those standards (including their commas ;)), and as long as the issue were entirely separate from the matter of cross-referencing. I would also prefer that we not introduce more codey syntaxy stuff; still, at least a new code would at least separate the matter of date display from that of date cross-referencing.

I bet a survey of all Wikipedia readers would find that most cared not much about whether they saw "December 10" or "10 December". This is an issue of much more fickleness than, say, spelling: British English has had colour for centuries, while Americans have had it without u for close to 200 years; but, while "December 10" is supposedly American and "10 December" British, the fact is that putting the date before the month is standard in the U.S. Armed Forces, while The Times of London and some other prominent British newspapers regularly write "December 10". I myself must have about seven ways of writing the date, in different contexts; I doubt I'm unusual in being able to understand more than one date format.

Sorry I'm babbling on.

If you described in more detail your comprehensive movement, I might be able to answer you more definitely. I think what I've written above, while it was intended only to deal with the date issue, may show that my opinion differs from yours on some other issues. Still, I'm curious about the details of your proposal.

I'm not spending much time at Wikipedia these days. I'm just giving some attention to the dates just now because maybe, just maybe, a turning-point has finally arrived.

Feel free to message me more; but I'm likelier to be aware of your message if you use the "E-mail this user" link at the left of this page.

President Lethe 04:16, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for a great laugh

This may leave you scratching your head at the end of it, as it really has not much to do with you specifically...but in a story mostly written by me and collab'd on with several others, we have a favourite antagonist who has the ability to yank out a person's fear and throw it in their face; this he does with gusto and slight massive tendencies for megalomania and arrogant sadism. His name is Lethe. The very idea of our Lethe being president of ANYTHING was quite shocking - and then was absolutely hilarious. XD Lady BlahDeBlah 21:09, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Shakespeare

You may want to rread this [1] Paul B 15:56, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I have. ;) I may post a little more about it at the article talk page where you saw my first post on this topic. — President Lethe 18:40, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Good work!

I noticed you making this rather nifty little copyedit. Keep up the good work, and good to see you back! --John 00:13, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

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A quick note of thanks for adjusting my puzzle jug photograph - big improvement. I hope that you get this copyright problem sorted without too much difficulty. If you need any help from me, just ask. Thanks again. Gaius Cornelius 11:33, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I came up with something. :) I also made yet another version today. My main concern was not wanting to convey the false impression that the image was truly, truly all my own work; after all, you're the one who made the original photo, even if you did release it to the public domain.

President Lethe 20:35, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

PS. I skimmed through your other photos, which I'll look at in more detail later. Good work!

President Lethe 20:35, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Please do feel free to make any changes to my photographs that you see fit. Gaius Cornelius 09:02, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

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Thanks, cohesion! Above now, you can see what my concern was and that I've decided on something.

President Lethe 20:36, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Wm. Faulkner article cliché cleanup

Kudos on your journeyman editor's tweaks on the William Faulkner article made this afternoon. What drew my attention to them was your concise, masterful edit summary: '

Four words -> one word. Seven syllables -> three syllables. Eighteen characters -> nine characters. "on a regular basis" -> "regularly".

I would regret to contradict any part of it, but "regularly" has four syllables, not three. However, since a syllable is a phonetic element, you could be basing your count on a pronunciation from any one of a dozen or so global English sub-dialects that drop the "u" or sharply flatten it to the point that it's phonically annexed by either neighboring syllable. Having been a resident of William Faulkner's hometown, I can attest that the word is pronounced tri-syllabically there on a regular basis. — Bridgman (talk • contribs) 02:02, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

American flag in http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild:Wien_Besatzungszonen.png [Bearbeiten]

Hi Preslethe,

thanks for the information, I fixed the two images containing now the old flag with 48 stars.

Mit den besten Grüßen, de:Benutzer:c.lingg —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.154.15.219 (talk) 14:03, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

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WP:CONTEXT

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Cut-and-paste page move of Alistair Cooke's America

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Nice edit!

This made me laugh :-) Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 14:06, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Not digging too deeply into your history of contributions, you seem to be on a roll as this edit summery contributed to my chuckling. Thanks, rkmlai (talk) 06:37, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Metrication in the United States

A disgusting comment has been placed on the Metrication in the United States talk page. Can you remove it?

There are two principal reasons why the United States of North America has been unable to change to a sensible measurement system that 200 / 203 countries use.

1. The financial cost of such a change would probably cripple a weakening economy.
2. The average American lacks the intellect necessary to be able to handle such a change.

ILuvAmerica (talk) 11:06, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

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t —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.73.133.177 (talk) 22:54, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Twilight (series)

Per: this edit. "If" is the more proper text as it may not be published. • S • C • A • R • C • E • 01:10, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

The problem is that "if" often comes with an inferred, if not an implied, converse: in this case, the converse is that, if the book is not published, it won't be a retelling of that story. Whether it's published or not, it's a retelling. If you think that "not yet published" looks too much like an implication that publication is inevitable, then perhaps it should be "which is unpublished" or "which has not been published". Come to think of it, "will be a retelling" is odd, too, because, if the text already exists, it already is a retelling. President Lethe (talk) 03:08, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

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Hi there, Melesse. To keep this relatively short, I'll just say that the rationale for having the file here is listed in its description—it illustrates (supports) a point that has had to be discussed repeatedly at multiple Talk pages (which, I admit, are not article pages). Feel free to remove it (it's not a big deal to me), but bear in mind (1) the chance (I don't know how big or small, though it may be small) that the dispute will arise again and (2) that such an illustration is the surest documentation to settle the dispute for those who don't have access to video recordings of the TV miniseries in question. I did think of hosting the file offsite and linking to it from the Talk page, and maybe I'll do that in the future; but, to continue the isolation of my Wikipedia identity from my other online identities, it would require me to find a hosting-site and make a new identity there. Hosting the file here is an easier (for me) way to ensure that Wikipedia's statements of the miniseries's title remain accurate, rather than inaccurate. ... I have just had an idea: What do you think of my making a different collage, without the explanatory text in the lower right quadrant, one that could be used to illustrate the actual article and simultaneously support the accurate version of the title? — President Lethe (talk) 19:59, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Sabotage — thank you!

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Umemaro 3D

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Re: Umemaro 3D

Hello, I'm leaving you a message regarding the AFD comment you posted for Umemaro 3D. When you say that I saw notable sources, what I was saying is that there weren't any at all except for a porn video. While the video may count as notable, there wasn't anything else to make the video notable, in other words....No other sources. SwisterTwister talk 02:55, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation. My own search showed more than "a porn video". Anyway, perhaps you should copy your reply to the AFD discussion. — President Lethe (talk) 19:30, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

discussion re. images at Sex positions

Hi there,

I don't know if you're watching this discussion. I noticed your post about representative diversity and I completely agree. There are many historical/art images on Commons that can be used. However there are many, many "fans" of Seedfeeder's illustrations who are passionately opposed to the use of anything that doesn't look like a porn still or something out of a sex manual (and also anything that doesn't reflect a dominant, white, young, male heterosexual viewpoint). I could really use some support there (if you have time & are so inclined) for my changes, though so far I have only added a few images and haven't removed anything, as that would only cause an edit war.

Anyhow, not sure you're still interested but thought I'd let you know.

Thanks :)-- TyrS  chatties  09:34, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

Hallo, TyrS! Only just noticed your communiqué. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I am reading the discussion and may find I have thoughts or information worth sharing there (even though I am much less involved in Talk discussions than I was some years ago); I hope I'm not too late. I think my views overlap partly with yours. President Lethe (talk) 21:21, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

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Wow, that was fast! Not even an hour later, the file is gone! I probably would’ve agreed with the file’s deletion—but how am I supposed to agree with that speed? — President Lethe (talk) 19:12, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

A find!

In 2010, you posted on the talk page for Valdemar Poulsen, asking if anyone was able to find a copy of the recording he had made of Franz Josef I.

-- enjoy! DS (talk) 13:29, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Thank you very much! Just several weeks ago, it finally dawned on me to see whether the recording was at YouTube. One of the videos I found is this one, which seems to have less in the way of digital artefacts interfering with the fidelity to the original. I would be interesting to know what causes the sounds that resemble 'tape echo' in the recording: perhaps, if the record head is also the playback head, the fact that the tape is wound as a helix around a drum means that the record head picks up the sound of the previous bit of wire on an adjacent wrapping and adds that to the bit that it's recording at that moment. — President Lethe (talk) 18:46, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

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Thank you for your edits to Vehicle identification number. Where you put comments in brackets (eg [match what?] ) it would be better if you used {{clarify}}. Generally we try to avoid putting such question in the text that a reader looks at and instead put them either in {{clarify}} or to ask longer questions on the article's talk page. Hopefully I hope clarified them anyway. Thanks.  Stepho  talk  05:54, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. I knew there was a template, didn’t know what it was, and because I was editing on my phone didn’t try to find it. I think I’ll remember from now on. — President Lethe (talk) 17:25, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

By the way, to answer the question you posed in this edit summary: because it's the name of the article. Ordinarily, in English, names of articles, songs, episodes, short poems, &c., go in quotation marks. I don't understand why so many Wikipedians find it more appropriate to write "See George Washington" than "See 'George Washington'": one is telling you to see a person, while the other tells you to see an article named "George Washington". (Obviously, "See the article on George Washington" is another story: but that's unnecessarily wordy: using quotation marks means you don't have to write "the article on".) Of course, if this were a print encyclopedia, we'd probably forgo quotation marks and put the names of referenced articles in small caps: the tradition for when a work refers to other parts of itself is to put those titles in small caps, or caps and small caps, as in "See WASHINGTON, GEORGE." — President Lethe (talk) 17:34, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

Ok, that use of quote marks makes sense. Although WP tries to avoid that form altogether and say things like "George Washington crossed the Delaware River", allowing the reader to follow what interests them instead of being told where to go.  Stepho  talk  04:42, 27 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply.

You wrote that "WP tries to avoid that form altogether". I'd say it does in certain instances, but that, in others, the custom is a command to the reader. Either way, whether it's a statement ("This is detailed in the article 'George Washington'") or a command ("See 'George Washinton' for detail"), sometimes the article's title, rather than its subject, is what is mentioned (and it wouldn't make sense to try to avoid quotation marks by saying "This is detailed in the article about George Washington", because many articles are about him (and "the" implies that there's only one); but only one is called "George Washington").

Anyway, I'm glad you're not the only one who wants to minimize commands to the reader. For example, whenever I see "note" commands (as in "Note that cats are mammals") at Wikipedia, I change them to statements ("Cats are mammals").

President Lethe (talk) 16:15, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

True, much of WP is less than perfect. But we persevere anyway :)  Stepho  talk  06:05, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

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