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I feel this Bell System "WikiProject" is a solution looking for a problem. X570 04:15, 24 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. These "Projects" have proliferated lately, to little visible benefit. They install "Templates" all over, each of which merely provides a neat click-list to the dozens of other articles in its embrace, for example from New York Telephone to Wisconsin Bell. Whatever for? And in this example, there are two template click-lists, one each installed for AT&T and one for Bell System. Neither is necessary; each article need merely have direct links to several actually relevant articles. As for coordinating activities, each article has a talk page. I recently used those talk pages in merging articles into Ground start and Loop start, and others. Do these Projects improve coordination?

On the other hand, if the Project leads someone to help correct and organize my historical articles on switching, including Panel switch, 1XB switch, 5XB switch, 1ESS switch, Crossbar switch and Reed relay, well then I can forgive some futility and clutter. Jim.henderson 21:31, 24 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Kill the cat

Is there a reason why Category:Bell System (Pre-1984) ought to exist? Practically all its articles are in also in the parent category, and just about any that aren't, should be. Jim.henderson 23:35, 21 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Jesus Christ, this still exists? Yet a page on a pretty significant band gets killed because some admin never heard of it. Whoever created this "wikiproject" and the guy that deleted that said band article (of which i made no contribution, just the reasoning really irked me, especially I discovered it deleted while I was looking for information that once existed on that page, and why I, and alot of other people stopped bothering with this wikipedia anymore. x570 00:20, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Huh?

Bell System and pre-84 AT&T is one and the same. Why the distinction? "Bell System" today refers collectively to AT&T, Verizon, and Qwest.

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Project logo?

More a thought, but wouldn't using the old Bell system logo instead of a telephone make a little more sense, conveys that were doing Bell system exclusivity and not telecom companies in general?--The Navigators (talk)-May British Rail Rest in Peace. 22:22, 17 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Probably still a trademark, alas, even though little used anymore. Jim.henderson (talk) 20:31, 19 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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SBC?

I'm starting a page for the defunct telecoms company SBC Communications. Is that within your requiem or should I just stick with the general Telecom header for the talk page?--The Navigators (talk)-May British Rail Rest in Peace. 03:19, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Incoming links to AT&T

A lot of incoming links to AT&T (AT&T Inc.) actually intend to link to AT&T Corporation. I have begun to resolve these and who knows how long it will take, but there is a whole pile of ambiguity in which references intended for two different articles are thrown together. Ordinarily this is handled by a dab page (e.g. "AT&T") and separate article pages (e.g. "AT&T Inc." and "AT&T Corp.") but I think that is against consensus in this case. It is also probable that new bluelinks to just "AT&T" will be created regularly that intend the other article, continuing the pile-on of ambiguity.

After the AT&T Corp. links are all fixed I would like to go back through and direct the other links to the target AT&T Inc. rather than AT&T. This appears similar to other disambiguation cases where the user is targeted to a redirect rather than the article title and for similar reasons. The benefit is that newly created bluelinks can be easily watched for and pointed to the correct source, either [[AT&T Inc.|AT&T]] or [[AT&T Corporation]]. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. 12.153.112.21 (talk) 17:29, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

On second thought there are over 2000 articles involved. It may be better to go through and dab the Corp. and the Inc. at the same time. If I don't hear back I will proceed. 12.153.112.21 (talk) 20:21, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move at Talk:Breakup of AT&T

Comment is requested at Talk:Breakup of AT&T. 138.16.102.158 (talk) 12:49, 11 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Conversion to task force

This project has been converted into a task force of WikiProject Telecommunications because of inactivity, and inability to exist as a standalone project. One may now use the Telecommunications project template to tag articles for the task force. RGloucester (talk) 23:12, 19 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Request for information on WP1.0 web tool

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History of Verizon

Editors interested in the Bell System may like to review my latest request to update the Verizon Communications article's History section, focusing on updating the Bell Atlantic (1983–2000) subsection.

As I work for Verizon and have a conflict of interest, I ask others to look at my requests and make edits on my behalf. I am happy to answer questions about this request on the article Talk page. Thank you, VZEric (talk) 20:15, 21 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This request has been answered. However, editors here interested in Verizon's early history may also be interested in this new request mainly to clean up the chronology of the 2000-2002 section. Thank you, VZEric (talk) 17:00, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]