Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ships/Guidelines

Italics naming

Hi all, sorry to be a complete idiot, but despite reading {{Italic title}} and other such policy, I still cannot work out how you get to name an article with ordinary and part italicised text. IE - PS Waverley (1835). You cannot use the apostrophes as wiki-markup, and plenty of articles I have looked at don't have anything that seems to show any templates that helped force the formatting. I don't want to move a page I have created into the mainspace and generally mess things right up. Help? Please? Thanks.The joy of all things (talk) 19:38, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

Umm, there is no article called PS Waverley (1835)? There is PS Waverley (1885) which has correct name formatting. The formatting is done automagically by {{infobox ship begin}}. Most ship articles don't need {{italic title}} or the {{DISPLAYTITLE}} magic word to get the correct title format.

You don't have to move a page ... into ... mainspace to test the formatting. You can 'create' the new article in mainspace using the desired name (PS Waverley (1835)?). Copy the text of your draft article into that and then preview (don't save). This works if you use the wikitext editor; if you are using that abomination that is visual editor then maybe previewing won't work because ve doesn't actually preview...

—Trappist the monk (talk) 23:20, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

Thanks Trappist the monk, I will do that when I am on the laptop, rather than at the moment as this is on my mobile. Ta. The joy of all things (talk) 07:43, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

Section name for list of vessels on class articles

Looking for clarification on the wording of the section for a list of vessels on class articles.

Per the example on Wikipedia:WikiProject Ships/Guidelines#Sample ship class article it just says ==Ships==.

However, on many articles, there is are sections named like...

• "Ships in class" (usually for surface vessels)
• "Boats in class" (usually for subs)
• "Units"
• or even dropping the list into a standard section like "See also"

Which is the preferred section naming to be used for article consistency? — MrDolomite • Talk 19:05, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

I would favour sticking with the guidelines, the addition of "..in class" is unnecessary. However, I would be happy for plain "Boats" for submarines since that seems to be how they are conventionally described. I don't know whether there is some type where "Units" would be more appropriate.

"See also" wouldn't be right as the list is a substantive part of the article subject, not a related subject. I can conceive of an exception where there are subclasses and they are described in the initial paragraphs, and are then listed under the subclass headings insteads of "ships". Davidships (talk) 04:29, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

How/where/if to include hull-number

There's a dispute at Talk:USS Torsk#Hull Number in Lead Paragraph that seems like it could use some external eyes. DMacks (talk) 12:27, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

This page is watched by 41 editors. You might want to notify WT:SHIPS which is watched by 340 editors.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 13:20, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

Done. Thanks. DMacks (talk) 13:27, 21 July 2022 (UTC)