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Proposed change to Report of Old Nominations

For those who read the Report, what do you think of a change from listing Old nominations over 30 days to over 90 days? This would change just that one section from a list of 500 nominations that were added 30 days ago or longer to a list of just over 100 nominations that were added 90 days ago or longer, helping the Report considerably; people can't manage more than that. Prhartcom (talk) 17:13, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I sort of think 30 days is a sensible ambition, no matter how distant. I'd prefer to create "Very old nominations", "Ancient nominations", etc. to split it up rather than exclude everything younger than 90 days. CMD (talk) 02:00, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Agree. -- asilvering (talk) 03:16, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

+1 Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 14:23, 25 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It wasn't that long ago that 30 days was a realistic amount of time to wait for a review, especially for those who do lots of reviews. I can't remember the last time I had one that was less than three months get reviewed. I wonder if there is not a better way to encourage the amount down, rather than change the goalposts. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:57, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

FYI update: Wugapodes and I have just made minor improvements to the Report. Please let us know if anything is not okay. Prhartcom (talk) 21:30, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Weightlifting section

Current there are three weightlifters, namely: Tham Nguyen, Zoe Smith, and Solfrid Koanda, who are GAs. They are listed in the "Sport miscellanea" section. Would it be more apt to make another section for weightlifting/Olympic weightlifting? Arconning (talk) 02:03, 28 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

For only three entries, I don't think that's worthwhile. I don't know the exact number I'd say merits its own section, but it's definitely higher than three. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 02:20, 28 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There are other sections that have less, would I be misunderstanding something? Arconning (talk) 06:47, 30 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps the one-article sections should be merged. —David Eppstein (talk) 06:55, 30 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It's a bit disorganised as there wasn't a formal system in the past. I found a section of zero articles once! However, there have been discussions on this over the past few years (cue sports for example, and for the record I was involved) and we have gone with lv 4/5/6 sections of somewhere between 20 and 200. CMD (talk) 06:58, 30 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, it does seem goofy to have a bunch of 1-entry headings. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 08:03, 30 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It's possible there were formerly more articles in those sections, but most were either delisted or promoted to FA. But as others have said, if there are tiny sections like that we should pursue upmerging them. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 20:49, 30 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Of these, I can see the case for keeping the Antarctica and South America ones (dividing places by continent is natural; there's a fixed small number of options, and merging them into a two-article "places on other continents" set seems to make no sense) and the 2025 songs one (we can reasonably expect this group to be expanded soon: we already have 54 good articles on 2024 songs!) Others seem good candidates for merging (all of the various small "Warships of" sets into a broader "other warships"; the various minor sports into "miscellaneous sports"). Caeciliusinhorto-public (talk) 14:54, 31 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:Tamparuli/GA1

Talk:Tamparuli/GA1 was created by the nominator. I noted this on their talkpage, and suggested either deletion or renomination, but they have not edited since nominating. Two editors have now left separate comments on things that need looking into, so I am now less convinced renomination makes sense. Does it make sense to fail it, so the nominator can fix those problems before renominating when they return? CMD (talk) 16:19, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The editor who creates the GA page is the one who will get credited as the reviewer, so it would be better to delete it if possible. Perhaps move the comments to the article talk page? Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 17:13, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'll just move it and transclude it to the talk page from the new location. The GA bot won't know the difference between that and a deletion, but we'll get to keep the page history and comments that way. -- asilvering (talk) 00:35, 2 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Is this meaningfully different from incrementation? I am wary of creating custom page titles, they seem likely to get lost. CMD (talk) 07:50, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It is different as far as the bot is concerned, if that matters. The first instance of the page gets recorded in the bot's history database; when a second version of that page shows up, it will mark the first as superseded, eliminating it from statistics. Incrementing leaves the statistics from the first instance of the page in place. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 10:29, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Could we just subst the newly-created page and then histmerge it to the talk page? That preserves the history and gets rid of the custom subpage. It's not like it's an aggressively active talk page, so it won't mess anything up. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 10:35, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That sounds like a good solution to me. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 10:59, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Done. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 11:06, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

How to deal with defective reviews?

This question is prompted by an issue that arose earlier today, but my question is more general than just that one article, so I won't name it. This was a case of what appeared to be a defective WP:GAN review, i.e. an article was listed as GA when it should not have. I've been involved in a few of those, and it's never clear how to best address the problem. In the past, I've seen some bad reviews simply deleted (under WP:G6 IIRC?). The current feeling seems to be to bring these to WP:GAR, but that process seems a poor fit. Some clearer guidance would be useful. RoySmith (talk) 15:52, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Only reviews that are never really started are G6ed, it has not previously applied to reviews with more effort, whatever their final quality. A common process for a defective review, if it is recent (I don't think we've discussed hard rules on what is recent, but we've managed so far) is to revert the passing of the article and renominate it for a new review. CMD (talk) 16:53, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Co-Nomination record

This is kind of an unimportant question, but is there a way to register co-nominations? I ask because many years ago, User:Glimmer721 and I worked on the article "Blink (Doctor Who)" together. While Glimmer officially nominated it, we openly saw one another as 'co-nominators'. However, the page isn't listed on this page, and the discrepancy bugs me, heh.--Gen. Quon_[Talk] 13:33, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

~~You can list the co-nominator in the note when nominating an article.~~ The bot only seems to pick up the user who nominated the article. Considering that the co-nominator is only usually listed in the note (a separate parameter for a conom doesn't exist), I don't think that there is a way to fix this. I might be wrong though. Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 13:57, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the bot doesn't recognise co-nominators. See recently e.g. this discussion. If you search this talkpage's archives for "co-nom"/"co-nominator" you'll find various people asking about it but it's never been a formally recognised part of the GA process. Caeciliusinhorto-public (talk) 14:36, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Vacant0 and Caeciliusinhorto: Thanks for the quick responses! That makes sense. Darn!--Gen. Quon_[Talk] 15:27, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]