Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Basketball

Is the NBA an independent source for an article about a player?

See Wikipedia_talk:Main_Page/Errors#Independent_sources, for a discussion about this.

--2603:7000:2101:AA00:F804:C954:1D4C:5D11 (talk) 22:18, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Career stats tables

I've been looking at how head coaches records are presented, and in basketball, they're different. You can see this in Rick Pitino where his college and professional stats are presented differently. I know WP:CBB is a long establish project, but should at least it be coordinated that these tables should look the same? Also, looking at Phil Jackson, with him as a player, the season is the first column, followed by the team. On his coaching record, then team is first, then the season. For college basketball, season comes first before the team. Shouldn't these also be the same as well? Howard the Duck (talk) 18:54, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Stats table typically have year as the first column, so I always found the style in NBA's bios bad. The college stlye violates MOS:COLHEAD:

Do not place column headers in the middle of a table to visually separate the table.

Among other things, tables are no longer sortable once headers are shoved into rows.—Bagumba (talk) 01:44, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

I kinda like presenting per team totals tho, but will defer to MOS.

NFL coaches also list the team first than the season. See Bill Belichick for example. Howard the Duck (talk) 09:44, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

Team totals can go on the bottom, e.g. Pitino at sports-reference.com —Bagumba (talk) 11:04, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

Yeah that looks great. Howard the Duck (talk) 11:30, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

Amateur Athletic Association

Regarding the page Amateur Athletic Association (basketball), was there an actual league by this name? The lead says, The Amateur Athletic Association is an amateur basketball league that was created in 1897. It hosts the annual AAU National Tournament, but none of its sources support it. At best, it seems like some WP:OR on Amateur Athletic Union and it's annual tournament, somewhat covered by List of AAU men's basketball champions. —Bagumba (talk) 03:38, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

I've WP:PRODed it. —Bagumba (talk) 03:45, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

Is there nothing about it on Newspapers.com? Alvaldi (talk) 07:15, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

I wasn't successful. It showed up some stuff for other countries' Amateur Athletic Association. Some local cities might have had a <city name> Amateur Athletic Association in AAU, but that's not some national league. —Bagumba (talk) 10:08, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

I also did take a short peek on Newspapers.com, and while there are alot of hits for Amateur Athletic Association, what they are referencing is all over the place. Couldn't find anything on a national league but then again I didn't look too deep. Regardless, I've no objections to the prod. Alvaldi (talk) 11:12, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

This is a weird one. Lots of the results I'm seeing appear to be typos, where people clearly meant to say "Amateur Athletic Union." None of the references or external links in the article offer anything helpful. Zagalejo (talk) 18:33, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

Note that 46 articles currently link to the page. Zagalejo (talk) 14:57, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

The Asian Tournament

See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Basketball/Archive 19#Invitational tournaments in professional players' infoboxes, is it okay to list The Asian Tournament teams in the infobox? HanTsî (talk) 14:08, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

Dwight Howard, DeMarcus Cousins, Quinn Cook, Samuel Deguara, Zaire Wade. HanTsî (talk) 14:10, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

We do not even have an article about the tournament per se. How are able to make an informed decision on this?

From what I know, the teams put up players specifically for a tournament, then are released, then when a new tournament comes up, a new batch of players comes in (which may not be identical to the immediately preceding batch). It means these teams do not have actual "home leagues" that they are members of and are sort of like a team that barnstorms tournaments. At least this is how Strong Group Athletics works. If these teams are like that, I'd rather not add them to the infobox. Howard the Duck (talk) 14:26, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

You can read zh:2024年TAT亞洲巡迴賽, although the quality of this aticle is terrible. Personally, I would like to remove the TAT teams from the infobox. HanTsî (talk) 14:35, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

I can't read Chinese (but I can sorta understand how the article flows LOL) but for invitational tournaments such as this which are done on the off-season, I'd suggest removing it from infoboxes. Howard the Duck (talk) 15:56, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for 1997–98 Tennessee Lady Volunteers basketball team

1997–98 Tennessee Lady Volunteers basketball team has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 20:08, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

Association with WP:OLYMPICS

Oscar Goodman (basketball) is showing up at Wikipedia:WikiProject Olympics/New articles. Is this project related to the Olympics in a way that this should happen? See main discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Olympics#Article tagging-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 12:58, 6 November 2024 (UTC)