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Help needed at formatting names on list and on death image montage
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- Aviator deaths in Je Sais Tout on 15 August 1912
- aviator deaths in Je Sais Tout on 15 August 1912, image 2
- Aeroplane Victims Now Number 100 in the New York Times on October 15, 1911
- Aeroplane Victims Now Number 200 in the New York Times on October 16, 1912
Inclusion of ferry and test flights in the list of accidents and incidents on commercial aircraft?
[edit]I've started this discussion to determine whether a consensus exists to include ferry and test flights in the list of accidents and incidents on commercial aircraft, and I think that members of this task force may be interested in participating. Carguychris (talk) 21:14, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
New discussion on 737 MAX accidents
[edit]See Talk:Boeing 737 MAX#"MCAS error" in summary field of accidents. CutlassCiera 21:48, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
Rename and upmerge for Category:Filmed deaths during transport disasters
[edit]I've propose that Category:Filmed deaths during transport disasters should be renamed Category:Filmed deaths involving transport accidents and upmerged directly under the Category:Filmed deaths category tree. This may be of interest to members of this task force because this is the parent category of Category:Filmed deaths during aviation accidents and incidents, and I'm not sure if our friendly and helpful WP:AV bot will automatically flag the parent category under Article Alerts. Discussion here; feel free to contribute. Carguychris (talk) 20:58, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
When should an event be described as a "accident", "crash", "incident", or something else?
[edit]This one's been litigated several times so it's worth getting a subject-matter consensus. What definitions should be used to describe an event or flight as a "crash", "incident", "accident", or something else? guninvalid (talk) 05:32, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- We should go by how reliable sources are describing the situation. As discussed here, though, different countries apply 'accident' and 'incident' differently. DonIago (talk) 05:57, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- We should use what reliable sources use. For "accident" and "incident", we should follow what the investigating agencies use, especially since news sources are generally discouraged from using the correct terminology used for aviation mishaps and are therefore unreliable for such information per WP:CONTEXTMATTERS. That said, news sources are generally reliable for determining the type of accident/incident (crash, shootdown, etc.), and therefore their use should not be limited for this information.
- As for the idea that "accident/incident" is WP:JARGON, it is at the very worst a borderline case. Any confusion that might arise from the use of "accident" can be easily alleviated with a link to Aviation accidents and incidents or a note, but I'm not sure this would be necessary on most articles. - ZLEA T\C 07:07, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
Airdisaster.ru
[edit]According to this discussion at Wikipedia:RS, airdisaster.ru was determined to be a user-generated SPS with no evidence of credentials or authority. I need consensus on whether this site can be used or not. Meltdown627 (talk) 20:00, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- If it's an SPS as you describe, why would it be permissible? DonIago (talk) 21:19, 7 January 2025 (UTC)