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Proposals, April 2015
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Oversized but thankfully two upmerged templates have over 60 articles
- {{India-tv-actor-stub}} - Category:Indian television actor stubs
- {{India-film-actor-stub}} - Category:Indian film actor stubs
should reduce the parent category. Waacstats (talk) 19:21, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
- Speedy support Gug01 (talk) 12:55, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
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Category is oversized looks like splitting out the Baronetcy should bring it down to size.
this of for articles like Bagot baronets rather than the actual people who held the title. Waacstats (talk) 11:44, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
Speedy cats
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The following templates have all reached 60, propse creating relevant categories for them.
- {{Cuba-footy-bio-stub}} – Category:Cuban football biography stubs
- {{Haiti-footy-bio-stub}} – Category:Haitian football biography stubs
- {{SanMarino-footy-bio-stub}} – Category:Sammarinese football biography stubs
Waacstats (talk) 08:58, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was create upmerged templates for UK-RC-clergy and UK-Anglican-clergy.
Category is oversized, no existing split other than for bishops, I propose the following (categories only if the templates reach 60, split looks odd on catscan)
- {{UK-RC-clergy-stub}} – Category:British Roman Catholic clergy stubs
- {{UK-Anglican-clergy-stub}} – Category:British Anglican clergy stubs
- {{UK-Methodist-clergy-stub}} – Category:British Methodist clergy stubs or Category:British Methodist minister stubs
- {{UK-Baptist-clergy-stub}} – Category:British Baptist clergy stubs or Category:British Baptist minister stubs
not sure which one to go for on the last two, clergy matches stub parent while minister matched perm cat. Waacstats (talk) 08:58, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
- Maybe it's oversized because it contains non-notable people? I see a lot of priests in there below the level of bishop (or equivalent); do they all warrant articles? I was under the impression that regular parish priests needed to be notable in some other way to warrant an article (see WP:CLERGY) - in which case some other (non-religious) stub template would be more suitable. We didn't create an article for Libby Lane until her appointment as Bishop of Stockport was announced: as a parish priest, she was probably not notable; as a bishop, she's automatically notable (even if she hadn't been the first female C of E bishop). --Redrose64 (talk) 13:52, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
- Tentatively support UK-RC and UK-Anglican templates, until it looks like a category is viable. Her Pegship (talk) 20:15, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
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Oversized and we have already split out the Olympic medalists, there doesn't seem to be much in the way of permcat splitting by road, track, mountain bike etc so the only thing I can come up with is either French Tour de France stage winners, which I don't like or by decade of birth similar to US basketball or leave as is. My prefered choice would be
- {{1990s-France-cycling-bio-stub}} – Category:French cycling biography, 1990s birth stubs
- {{1980s-France-cycling-bio-stub}} – Category:French cycling biography, 1980s birth stubs
- {{1970s-France-cycling-bio-stub}} – Category:French cycling biography, 1970s birth stubs
- {{1960s-France-cycling-bio-stub}} – Category:French cycling biography, 1960s birth stubs
- {{1950s-France-cycling-bio-stub}} – Category:French cycling biography, 1950s birth stubs
- {{1940s-France-cycling-bio-stub}} – Category:French cycling biography, 1940s birth stubs
- {{1930s-France-cycling-bio-stub}} – Category:French cycling biography, 1930s birth stubs
- {{1920s-France-cycling-bio-stub}} – Category:French cycling biography, 1920s birth stubs
- {{1910s-France-cycling-bio-stub}} – Category:French cycling biography, 1910s birth stubs
- {{1900s-France-cycling-bio-stub}} – Category:French cycling biography, 1900s birth stubs
and further back if deemed necessary, categories only for templates that pass 60. Waacstats (talk) 08:58, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
- Speedy support Gug01 (talk) 23:06, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
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Another oversized category, the following appear viable
unless we want upmerged by country templates. Waacstats (talk) 08:58, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
- Oppose. Personally, I haven't understood the concept behind tagging these year articles as "stubs". The overwhelming majority of these articles, is simply a list of events that happened during that year. And lists, as I understand it, are a different classification from stubs. Thus -- my preference would be to remove the stubs off of all year articles that amount to nothing more than an event list. I expect this would make Category:Year stubs a barely occupied, underpopulated category. Dawynn (talk) 12:13, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
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Oversized, most articles appear to have the district in them so propose a split based on districts seems viable.
- {{Abbottabad-geo-stub}} – Category:Abbottabad district geography stubs
- {{Bannu-geo-stub}} – Category:Bannu district geography stubs
- {{Battagram-geo-stub}} – Category:Battagram district geography stubs
- {{Buner-geo-stub}} – Category:Buner district geography stubs
- {{CharsaddaPK-geo-stub}} – Category:Charsadda district, Pakistan geography stubs
- {{Chitral-geo-stub}} – Category:Chitral district geography stubs
- {{DeraIsmailKhan-geo-stub}} – Category:Dera Ismail Khan district geography stubs
- {{Hangu-geo-stub}} – Category:Hangu district geography stubs
- {{Haripor-geo-stub}} – Category:Haripor district geography stubs
- {{KarakPK-geo-stub}} – Category:Karak district geography stubs
- {{UpperKohistan-geo-stub}} – Category:Upper Kohistan district geography stubs
- {{LakkiMarwat-geo-stub}} – Category:Lakki Marwat district geography stubs
- {{Lower Dir-geo-stub}} – Category:Lower Dir district geography stubs
- {{Malakand-geo-stub}} – Category:Malakand district geography stubs
- {{Mansehra-geo-stub}} – Category:Mansehra district geography stubs
- {{MardanPK-geo-stub}} – Category:Mardan district geography stubs
- {{NowsheraPK-geo-stub}} – Category:Nowshera district geography stubs
- {{PeshawarPK-geo-stub}} – Category:Peshawar district geography stubs
- {{Shangla-geo-stub}} – Category:Shangla district geography stubs
- {{Swabi-geo-stub}} – Category:Swabi district geography stubs
- {{Swat-geo-stub}} – Category:Swat district geography stubs
- {{Tank-geo-stub}} – Category:Tank district geography stubs
- {{TorGhar-geo-stub}} – Category:Tor Ghar district geography stubs
- {{Upper Dir-geo-stub}} – Category:Upper Dir district geography stubs
- {{LowerKohistan-geo-stub}} – Category:Lower Kohistan district geography stubs
I have added PK to templates where I have found places outside of Pakistan with the same name and added Pakistan to categories where I found districts elsewhere, do we need district in the template to distinguish the district from the capital of the district? Obviously categories only for those that reach 60. Waacstats (talk) 08:58, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
- Comment Can you please say how many stubs there will be in each category? Gug01 (talk) 13:33, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
- Not easily, but I suggest the templates be created and populated and only those templates that pass the 60 mark get a category. Waacstats (talk) 19:00, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
- OK. I suggest that is done. I will support. Gug01 (talk) 21:32, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
- Not easily, but I suggest the templates be created and populated and only those templates that pass the 60 mark get a category. Waacstats (talk) 19:00, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
Split of Category:Lamiinae stubs
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Uhhh! It's happening again! Lamiinae is skyrocketing upwards. I will also create the permanent categories too. To combat this, I propose the following:
{{Astathini-stub}}/ Category:Astathini stubs - 99 pages, not including the following:
- {{Bacchisa-stub}}/ Category:Bacchisa stubs - 80 pages
{{Batocerini-stub}}/ Category:Batocerini stub - 141 pages
Gug01 (talk) 22:30, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
1920s silent Western film stubs
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Category:1920s Western (genre) film stubs currently has 227 articles. However, 183 of those also have the stub tab {{silent-film-stub}}: [1]. I think that there should probably be a new stub tag that covers both, such as {{1920s-silent-Western-film-stub}}, since Category:Silent film stubs is in danger of becoming overpopulated again. There used to be a {{silent-Western-film-stub}}, but it was deleted in favor of the decade stub tags for Westerns. And most of the other silent film stub tags have retained the decade when being split, such as {{1910s-short-drama-film-stub}} and {{1920s-silent-drama-film-stub}}. Thoughts? Fortdj33 (talk) 20:27, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
- There are several upmerged decade stub templates under Category:Western (genre) film stubs, some of which once had their own categories. Perhaps it would make sense to ensure the pages in the parent category are tagged according to decade first, at which point we can see what sub-cats can be made and whether Category:1920s Western (genre) film stubs is truly oversized. Pegship (talk) 23:35, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
Split of Category:Asia transport stubs by region
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Category:Asia transport stubs has over 200 stubs, excluding subcats. I recommend splitting it by region (as defined by Category:Asia stubs, with the possible exception of the Caucasus region - we do have a transport stub category for at least one country in each region (Kazakhstan in Cerntral Asia, Japan in East Asia, Iran in the Middle East, India in South Asia, Vietnam in Southeast Asia). עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 10:51, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
Propose {{Ommatidae stubs}}
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Propose a stub template for Ommatidae stubs. Note that this is only the template and not a category, since there are only 11 Ommatidae articles. Gug01 (talk) 16:12, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
- Opppose. Approval already granted in July 2011, and template created. In May 2012, the beetles were reorganized under suborder. {{Ommatidae-stub}} exists, and can be used, but it is a redirect to suborder tag {{Archostemata-stub}}. There are only 22 articles tagged in the suborder, so no need for subdivision (i.e. revival of the family tag) yet. Dawynn (talk) 10:22, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
- I didn't know that. Gug01 (talk) 13:47, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
Some Lamiinae subcategory splits
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The result of the debate was create Nealcidion and Jordanoleiopus only.
I propose the following:
- {{Ostedes stub}} / Category:Ostesedes stubs - 35 pages
- {{Goephanes stub}} / Category:Goephanes stubs - 40 pages
- {{Nealcidion stub}} / Category:Nealcidion stubs - 58 pages
- {{Jordanoleiopus stub}} / Category:Jordanoleiopus stubs - 55 pages
- {{Auxa stub}} / Category:Auxa stubs - 28 pages
- {{Doliops stub}} / Category:Doliops stubs - 37 pages
- {{Mimosybra stub}} / Category:Mimosybra stubs - 28 pages
- {{Hippopsis stub}} / Category:Hippopsis stubs - 42 pages
- {{Agapanthia stub}} / Category:Agapanthia stubs - 21 pages
- {{Bisaltes (genus) stub}} / Category:Bisaltes (genus) stubs - 35 pages
Gug01 (talk) 14:11, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
- Support templates, with revisions. We use dashes instead of spaces in template names. I approve the following. Dawynn (talk) 10:47, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
- {{Ostedes-stub}}
- {{Goephanes-stub}}
- {{Nealcidion-stub}}
- {{Jordanoleiopus-stub}}
- {{Auxa-stub}}
- {{Doliops-stub}}
- {{Mimosybra-stub}}
- {{Hippopsis-stub}}
- {{Agapanthia-stub}}
- {{Bisaltes-stub}} (I don't predict much need for a stub template for the myth)
- Weak oppose Nealcidion and Jordanoleiopus categories. While technically under 60, these are close enough for me to overlook, and will remove articles from an overpopulated parent category. Dawynn (talk) 10:47, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
- Oppose the remaining categories. No others close to the 60 threshold, and we don't need more underpopulated categories. Dawynn (talk) 10:47, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
- OK. I'll just create the Nealcidion and Jordanoleiopus templates/categories for now. Gug01 (talk) 13:46, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
Religious structures
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I propose creating a category tree for Category:Religious building and structure stubs/{{reli-struct-stub}}, which would cover (among other things) churches, mosques and synagogues - which would include stub tags for any geographical region (e.g city, U.S. state) which has at least one of {{church-stub}}, {{mosque-stub}} and {{synagogue-stub}}, as well as any country with at least a dozen stubs where such a tag would be appropriate; and a category for any such area with at least 60 stubs for it (including any region with a Foo church stubs category). עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 12:57, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
Category:Medical biography stubs
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Needs a subcategory for African medical biography. There are 353 in the residual category and a good proportion are AfricanRathfelder (talk) 18:01, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
- Support Gug01 (talk) 14:14, 8 April 2015 (UTC)