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Proposals, August 2010
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Category:2000s novel stubs - redux
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This could use some further winnowing. A search with CatScan reveals the following to be viable:
--Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 21:02, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support was looking at this myself. Waacstats (talk) 21:52, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
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Speedy.Starzynka (talk) 10:52, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
- I think given that the template has almost 300 articels I think this one can be speedied. Waacstats (talk) 12:29, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
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split of Category:Portugal geography stubs
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currently overpopulated I propose we split by Districts of Portugal, 18 templates and as many categories as would make it to 60. Waacstats (talk) 14:18, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
SupportStarzynka (talk) 10:52, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
Split of Category:Algeria geography stubs
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Currently overpopulated the following are viable from current templates
- Category:Médéa Province geography stubs
- Category:M'Sila Province geography stubs
- Category:Mascara Province geography stubs
'Province' to match current cats. Waacstats (talk) 10:57, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
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Split of Category:Alberta geography stubs
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Category is currently overpopulated propose we continue with a split by Regions the following would be needed as 2 already exist
- {{NorthernAlberta-geo-stub}} / Category:Northern Alberta geography stubs
- {{AlbertaRockies-geo-stub}} / Category:Alberta's Rockies geography stubs
- {{SouthernAlberta-geo-stub}} / Category:Southern Alberta geography stubs
- {{CentralAlberta-geo-stub}} / Category:Central Alberta geography stubs
Categories iff there are 60 articles. Waacstats (talk) 10:48, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
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Category is currently overpopulated propose we continue with a split by districts/unitary authorities, (I know this is not quite ideal given Stockton-on-tees crosses the county border but...) as we have already started I would propose
- {{Selby-geo-stub}} / Category:Selby geography stubs
- {{Harrogate-geo-stub}} / Category:Harrogate geography stubs
- {{Craven-geo-stub}} / Category:Craven geography stubs
- {{Richmondshire-geo-stub}} / Category:Richmondshire geography stubs
- {{Ryedale-geo-stub}} / Category:Ryedale geography stubs
- {{Scarborough-geo-stub}} / Category:Scarborough geography stubs
- {{StocktononTees-geo-stub}} / Category:Stockton on Tees geography stubs
Categorie iff there are 60 articles. Waacstats (talk) 09:33, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
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Template: {{dacinae-stub}}. Main category Category:Dacinae. Main article Dacinae. Just shy of 100 articles here. This, in addition to some work I'm just finishing up, will pull the majority of the remaining articles from the former oversized Category:Tephritidae stubs. Dawynn (talk) 19:10, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 17:50, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
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Split of Category:Infodynamics stubs
It should include sub-catagories: -Sub-quantum/Plank infodynamics -Quantum infodynamics -Physical infodynamics -Atomic infodynamics -Chemical infodynamics -Biochemical infodynamics -Psychological infodynamics -Social infodynamcis -Anthropological infodynamics -Technological infodynamics -AI infodynamics the following two templates have passed the 60 uses mark so speedy propose the respective categories
split of Category:Rugby union team stubs
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the following two templates have passed the 60 uses mark so speedy propose the respective categories
- {{Wales-rugbyunion-team-stub}} / Category:Welsh rugby union team stubs
- {{Scotland-rugbyunion-team-stub}} / Category:Scottish rugby union team stubs
Waacstats (talk) 13:10, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
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split of Category:Rugby union biography stubs
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The template {{Fiji-rugbyunion-bio-stub}} has got 60 articles speedy propose the creation of Category:Fijian rugby union biography stubs. Waacstats (talk) 13:07, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
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split of Category:Journalist stubs
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The {{Africa-journalist-stub}} has over 60 articles I speedy propose Category:African journalist stubs. Waacstats (talk) 15:44, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
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split of Category:Swiss sportspeople stubs
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The {{Switzerland-athletics-bio-stub}} has over 60 articles I speedy propose Category:Swiss athletics biography stubs. Waacstats (talk) 15:44, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
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The {{England-footy-midfielder-1910s-stub}} has over 60 articles I speedy propose Category:English football midfielder, 1910s birth stubs. Waacstats (talk) 15:44, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
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split of Category:Australia government stubs
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Oversized, The {{Australia-party-stub}} has over 60 articles I speedy propose Category:Australia political party stubs. Waacstats (talk) 15:44, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
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split of Category:2000s novel stubs
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Oversized, looks like the following could well be viable
- {{2000s-child-novel-stub}} / Category:2000s children's novel stubs
- {{2000s-horror-novel-stub}} / Category:2000s horror novel stubs
- {{2000s-thriller-novel-stub}} / Category:2000s thriller novel stubs
- {{2000s-ya-novel-stub}} / Category:2000s young adult novel stubs
and might be enough to lower it below 800. Waacstats (talk) 15:44, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
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Proposal for both a Northern Irish and Welsh sports bio stub
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There currently exists an English, Scottish and Irish sports stub. Welsh sportsman are listed under UK stubs while Northern Irish sportsmen are listed under either Irish or UK stubs. One example is Tony Dobbin who is listed under Irish sports stubs. I feel he should be under Northern Irish stubs.Captainbeecher (talk) 07:06, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
- Looks like these were created:
- Dawynn (talk) 18:46, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
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Oversized, looks like this one has already been started so propose we continue with pattern of splitting by district templates upmerged to former regions.
- {{Braunschweig-geo-stub}}
- {{Delmenhorst-geo-stub}}
- {{Emden-geo-stub}}
- {{Oldenburg-geo-stub}}
- {{Osnabrück-geo-stub}}
- {{Salzgitter-geo-stub}}
- {{Wilhelmshaven-geo-stub}}
- {{Wolfsburg-geo-stub}}
- {{Ammerland-geo-stub}}
- {{Aurich-geo-stub}}
- {{Bentheim-geo-stub}}
- {{Celle-geo-stub}}
- {{Cloppenburg-geo-stub}}
- {{Cuxhaven-geo-stub}}
- {{Emsland-geo-stub}}
- {{FrieslandDE-geo-stub}} (additional DE to avoid clashing with Netherlands friesland.
- {{Harburg-geo-stub}}
- {{Leer-geo-stub}}
- {{LüchowDannenberg-geo-stub}}
- {{Lüneburg-geo-stub}}
- {{Oldenburg-geo-stub}}
- {{Osnabrück-geo-stub}}
- {{Osterholz-geo-stub}}
- {{Rotenburg-geo-stub}}
{{SoltauFallingbostel-geo-stub}}- {{Heidekreis-geo-stub}} renamed 1.8.2011- {{Stade-geo-stub}}
- {{Uelzen-geo-stub}}
- {{Vechta-geo-stub}}
- {{Verden-geo-stub}}
- {{Wesermarsch-geo-stub}}
- {{Wittmund-geo-stub}}
split by there regional categories should be enough. Waacstats (talk) 15:44, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 21:10, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose. Most people have never heard of Lower Saxony's districts and this just adds confusion. The proposal should not be carried out unless it has been discussed and agreed at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Germany. The number of stubs is not excessive and quite a few are no longer stubs anyway. I have already removed around thirty by expanding them or deleting them where appropriate and will continue to assist in driving nos. down further. --Bermicourt (talk) 06:55, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
- Comment. Not sure there's much point in discussing this further - the stubs have been created and are steadily being added to articles anyway. --Bermicourt (talk) 13:51, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
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Overisized propose we split by Kantons and Regions possibly upmerged to a Federation of Bosnia and herzegovina and Republic Sprska geo cats.
- Support - I'm working on recategorizing now, should help with stub-tagging. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 21:11, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
I suggest you create stub templates for municipalities with 60+ villages in them. The others can use Cantons of the Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina templates. OK?Starzynka (talk) 21:35, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
Propose:
Federation
- {{UnaSanaCanton-geo-stub}}
- {{PosavinaCanton-geo-stub}}
- {{TuzlaCanton-geo-stub}}
- {{ZenicaDobojCanton-geo-stub}}
- {{BosnianPodrinjeCanton-geo-stub}}
- {{CentralBosniaCanton-geo-stub}}
- {{HerzegovinaNeretvaCanton-geo-stub}}
- {{WestHerzegovinaCanton-geo-stub}}
- {{SarajevoCanton-geo-stub}}
- {{WestBosniaCanton-geo-stub}} or {{Canton10-geo-stub}}
Republika
- {{TrebinjeRegion-geo-stub}}
- {{FočaRegion-geo-stub}}
- {{SarajevoRomanijaRegion-geo-stub}}
- {{VlasenicaRegion-geo-stub}}
- {{BijeljinaRegion-geo-stub}}
- {{DobojRegion-geo-stub}}
- {{BanjaLukaRegion-geo-stub}}
Seperate municipality templates for 60+
- {{Trebinje-geo-stub}}
- {{Goražde-geo-stub}}
and any other seperate municipality template for those with 60+:
Starzynka (talk) 21:50, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
Maybe best to organize categories by canton also like Category:Populated places in the West Herzegovina Canton and then by municipality.Starzynka (talk) 21:52, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
German state structure templates
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Given that there are thousands of articles to transwiki and existing could do with organization:
- {{BadenWürttemberg-struct-stub}}
- {{Bavaria-struct-stub}}
- {{Berlin-struct-stub}}
- {{Brandenburg-struct-stub}}
- {{Bremen-struct-stub}}
- {{Hesse-struct-stub}}
- {{Hamburg-struct-stub}}
- {{MecklenburgVorpommern-struct-stub}}
- {{NorthRhineWestphalia-struct-stub}}
- {{RhinelandPalatinate-struct-stub}}
- {{Saxony-struct-stub}}
- {{SaxonyAnhalt-struct-stub}}
- {{LowerSaxony-struct-stub}}
- {{Saarland-struct-stub}}
- {{SchleswigHolstein-struct-stub}}
- {{Thuringia-struct-stub}}
Dr. Blofeld 11:14, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
- No rush for these, but support based on other countries especially if there is going to be a transwiki effort in the future. Waacstats (talk) 15:19, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support for transwikiing --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 21:11, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
Split of Category:Hylidae stubs
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The various Hylidae articles were already very well sorted by genus in main categories. Gathering these into subfamily categories allows for some splits amongst the stub categories.
- {{Hemiphractinae-stub}} / Category:Hemiphractinae stubs. Cat scan indicates somewhere around 70 articles.
- {{Pelodryadinae-stub}} / Category:Pelodryadinae stubs. 121 articles.
- {{Phyllomedusinae-stub}} / Category:Phyllomedusinae stubs. 56 articles. Willing to start with an upmerge template, and build to a category, if we can find the extra 4 articles.
- {{Hylinae-stub}} / Category:Hylinae stubs. 364 articles so far, and I'm still carving this one. Asking for a few subcategories under this guy:
- {{Dendropsophus-stub}} / Category:Dendropsophus stubs. 91 articles.
- {{Hypsiboas-stub}} / Category:Hypsiboas stubs. 73 articles.
- {{Scinax-stub}} / Category:Scinax stubs. 89 articles.
That should go far toward breaking down what had become an overlarge category. Dawynn (talk) 16:15, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 20:27, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support and we can probably 'find' those extra four articles. Waacstats (talk) 15:17, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
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Category:Women's association football biography stubs (and national subcats)
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The organization of association football biography stubs loses some value of the categorization process IMO. One clear opportunity for improvement is in the categorization of women's football articles. For example, Category:German football biography stubs includes Claudia Müller and Isabell Bachor. The only existing subcategories in which to classify those players would be their position on the field. However, a German women's football enthusiast might wish to assist in expanding stubs for women's footballers, regardless of position.
I didn't go to the effort to quantify the number of articles for such categories, but hopefully it's self-evident that "lots" of stubs would qualify. Regards, PhilipR (talk) 16:46, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- I'm not generally to keen on splitting stub categories by sex but I think this is one of the few areas where there is a massive disparity between the followers of the mens and womens sides. I think that for starters it may be best just to have 1 category as a subcat of Category:Association football biography stubs fed by a generic template {{Women-footy-bio-stub}}? and a few national templates for the larger nations in womens football (Germany, US, China, Norway, Sweden, Brazil) and see how many we have got. I also think it would be an idea to keep them in there current categories where these are more descriptive than the womens category (i.e keeping someone in norwegian midfielder stub cat stays there and goes into the womens cat.)Waacstats (talk) 12:04, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support what Waacstats suggests - I suspect there are enough American women alone to warrant a separate category. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 20:27, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
- I'm glad someone understood what I was rambling on about. Waacstats (talk) 15:48, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
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actually {{Ourapterygini-stub}}. 97 articles. Will pull from Category:Ennominae stubs and Category:Geometridae stubs. Dawynn (talk) 12:05, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 21:39, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support Waacstats (talk) 12:04, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
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{{Boarmiini-stub}}. 159 articles. Will pull primarily from Category:Ennominae stubs. Dawynn (talk) 12:05, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 21:40, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support Waacstats (talk) 12:04, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
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I'd like to propose upmerge templates for this category:
- {{Charaxinae-stub}} / Category:Charaxinae stubs. 58 articles. I'm asking for approval on the category here since I may be able to find a couple more articles here that have not been tagged as stubs yet.
- {{Biblidinae-stub}}. 33 articles.
- {{Apaturinae-stub}}. 27 articles.
This *should* provide sub-family level categories for the majority of Nymphalidae articles. Dawynn (talk) 11:22, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 21:40, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support for the above and any of the categories that proove to be over 60 (Save you coming back). Waacstats (talk) 11:55, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
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Category:Apodiformes stubs has over 400 stubs. Of these, 176 are about hummingbirds. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 09:08, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 21:40, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support looks like a very sensible split. Waacstats (talk) 11:56, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
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Just started looking at this category. I'm working on breaking the parent category (Category:Tephritidae) apart by subfamilies. It's already becoming clear that there should be support for a few subcategories here:
- {{Tephritinae-stub}} / Category:Tephritinae stubs. I believe this will eventually have enough to support being a category of its own. It will also serve as an intermediate category, containing the already existing Category:Urophora stubs.
- {{Rhagoletis-stub}} / Category:Rhagoletis stubs. Genus-level category (see parent Category:Rhagoletis). Cat scan indicates over 70 articles.
- {{Trypeta-stub}} / Category:Trypeta stubs. Although this main genus-level category still needs to be formed, there appear to be about 200 articles here, most of which are likely stubs. See main article Trypeta.
- {{Trypetinae-stub}} / Category:Trypetinae stubs. This also appears to have enough for its own, once the parent gets cut apart. In the meantime, it will serve as an intermediate category for the Rhagoletis and Trypeta stub categories. Main category has been started, but not fully filled: Category:Trypetinae.
- {{Phytalmiinae-stub}} / Category:Phytalmiinae stubs. I anticipate this will also have enough, once everything is cut apart. I'm willing to build this as an upmerge template until 60 articles found. Main category has been started, but not fully filled: Category:Phytalmiinae.
Dawynn (talk) 15:06, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:43, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support.looks like a good way to split this oversized category. Waacstats (talk) 11:54, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
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{{Darts-bio-stub}}
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I had a look at Category:Darts stubs yesterday; it's not oversized, but even so so many of the stubs are biographical that I think a stub tag is in order. What say y'all? --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:16, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support - I created most of them back in 2006! Dr. Blofeld 09:38, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support - Yes, they should be seperated. Mr.Kennedy1 talk 19:38, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
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Template: {{Hyposmocoma-stub}}. This genus is huge. I have already placed over 100 articles into a separate category (Category:Hyposmocoma) under Category:Cosmopterigidae, and there's at least that many more to move. Most of these are stubs. This would be a child category under Category:Cosmopterigidae stubs. Dawynn (talk) 11:39, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
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{{whale-stub}} and {{paleo-whale-stub}}
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{{paleo-whale-stub}} was created out of process. Scans I have just done propose that there may be nearly 60 articles which could be tagged as {{whale-stub}}, and of these, 39 could be tagged as {{paleo-whale-stub}}. I propose creating the former, and keeping the latter, as upmerged templates until we have a few more. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 07:37, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
- Support --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:14, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
- Seems reasonable. Dr. Blofeld 09:38, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
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