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Template:Infobox French hamlet

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The result of the discussion was delete. JPG-GR (talk) 01:59, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox French hamlet (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Redundant to other French subdivision infobox templates and/or {{Infobox settlement}}. Only 4 instances. Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 22:41, 16 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

keep. Possibly useful.--ᜊᜓᜅ ᜅ᜔ ᜑᜎᜋᜅ᜔ ᜋᜑᜒᜏᜄ
(ᜑ᜔ᜎᜒᜃ ᜐᜓᜋᜎᜒ ᜃ ᜐ ᜂᜐᜉᜈ) 11:30, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Globe

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The result of the discussion was delete Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 00:28, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Globe (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

The template has five wikilinks in it and is currently only used on one page, the band's article. The template is the band's discography that would be all redlinks if the albums/songs were actually linked. Since the template is only used on the band's article to be a discography when that article already has a discography, this is a pointless template to have.Aspects (talk) 15:36, 16 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Moon and Mars

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The result of the discussion was delete and replace with {{coord}} Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 00:05, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Moon (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages) = 59 transclusions
Template:Coor Mars (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages) = 24 transclusionsunused in articles

Redundant to the more flexible {{Coord}} (well over 500,000 transclusions), as can be seen here for Moon & seen here for Mars. Current instances should be converted. Note: please can an admin add {{tfd}} to their pages? Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 09:18, 16 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Heroes cast

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The result of the discussion was delete with no prejudice toward any changes to Template:Heroes. JPG-GR (talk) 02:05, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Heroes cast (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Inappropriate. We don't connect actors with navboxes because it happened for some years of their careers to appear in the same show. Magioladitis (talk) 01:40, 8 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Can we Merge this into Template:Heroes then? I can think of many, many templates that have the cast in them: Template:True Blood, Template:Star Trek TNG, Template:30 Rock, Template:Smallville, Template:Samantha Who?, Template:Murder, She Wrote, Template:The Golden Girls, Template:Friends, Template:Home Improvement, Template:Harpers Island to name a few. I'm not saying put this template on all the actors' pages, I just want to insert them into the template listed above. If not, there a likely hundreds of templates that need to have this information removed, including the above listed ones to start. Ejfetters (talk) 08:11, 8 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I think you have to discuss in Heroes project from adding a list of actors in the template (this is not exactly merging). I think there is an ongoing discussion somewhere (I 'll try to find it) about the presence of actors in these navboxes. -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:39, 8 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Merge with {{Heroes}}. My take on the whole "should actors be in show navboxes" is this: if the show has enough articles to warrant a navbox without considering the actor articles, then I'm OK with that navbox also including the major actors from that show (not recurring cast as we've seen in some navboxes nominated recently). So in the list of examples Ejfetters gave above, I'm fine with {{Star Trek TNG}} and {{30 Rock}}, but {{Samantha Who?}} seems a bit thin as a navbox if you don't count the cast. But I can't think of any case where a separate navbox for just the cast is warranted. --RL0919 (talk) 14:27, 16 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Although the actors are connected with the show, they don't have much in common with each other. It wouldn't make sense to navigate between cast members of shows, characters of course, but not cast members. BOVINEBOY2008 :) 03:03, 18 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Such templates are becoming simply too proliferate and take away from adding relevant content to actual articles. There's nothing here that can't be found on the Heroes article. Wildhartlivie (talk) 21:50, 18 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as excessive, unnecessary navigation. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 23:34, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Go

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The result of the discussion was withdrawn. JPG-GR (talk) 02:07, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Go (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unnecessary duplication of existing templates; was only used in a handful or articles. Cybercobra (talk) 03:11, 8 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: If your intention is to replace all the templates that generate a hatnote with this {{go}} template, then I'm very hesitant to support you. The templates that you intend to replace are each widely used in about an average of over 65,000 or more pages, and thus are all very high-risk and permanently protected. Thus, if you replace all of them for a one-size-fits all, global template, it would be used on a significant majority of articles here. And since it consists of a very large #switch parserFunction, it would be a little more difficult to maintain since there is a greater chance of making a typo that would screw up those millions of articles. And due to the nature of the server load and the job queue, I would expect that changes to this single global template would not become visible in all these millions of pages for several weeks or even months.

Also, I am one who prefers that extremely widely used templates like these comply somewhat with the KISS principle because they are seen most often by new Wikipedians, and thus in a way allows them to learn how to use the basics of templates. By replacing them with this new {{go}} template, you add more parameters and the complex #switch parserFunction for all to deal with. Zzyzx11 (talk) 04:16, 10 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Are either of you Wikimedia developers?   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 22:20, 13 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Weak keep. As much as I appreciate standardization, I definitely have doubts about standardizing so many templates that are so visible and so widely used into a single, relatively untested template. I could support a more cautious approach to reducing the number of different hatnote templates. For example, first combine {{catmore}} and {{catmore2}}, then use the experience to combine others, possibly ending up with a single template in the long run, if the experience of lesser combinations shows that it can work. So I don't mind keeping this template around to possibly proceed with such experimentation, but that is not an endorsement of any quick replacement of the other templates with this one. --RL0919 (talk) 14:03, 16 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: This is the wrong venue to have this type of discussion since the template's creator's intention is to essentially make a proposal to modify a Wikipedia policy or guideline, specifically WP:HAT, so that one primary standard template is generally used instead of several ones listed on Template:Otheruses templates. Thus, this TFD should be closed and the creator should post/advertise his proposals elsewhere like WP:CENT and WP:VPR. There, discussions about its use and how it can be tested can take place, especially in light of the recent update yesterday to the software on all Wikimedia sites. Zzyzx11 (talk) 03:40, 18 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Withdraw per comments regarding proper forum, but with the request that the template author bring up their proposed policy change at the proper forum reasonably soon. --Cybercobra (talk) 05:57, 18 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: Thank you for the suggestion, but there is a procedural impediment: I am not an admin, and if this template were to become widely used, prudence would dictate that it be fully protected, meaning that I could no longer work on it.   — Jeff G. (talk|contribs) 01:04, 19 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:High traffic

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The result of the discussion was keep. JPG-GR (talk) 02:08, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Template:High traffic (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

This template seems to be of questionable usefulness these days. It was created when Wikipedia was mostly unknown, and being linked from a website like Slashdot would cause a sudden spike in the traffic to an article; but these days, Wikipedia is one of the highest-trafficked (and widely linked-to) sites on the internet itself. I'm not sure it has any value to note that one of our articles has been linked by a high-traffic website these days; when it is, we have more specific templates, like {{Press}}, that do the job better. This template should either be deleted or marked as historical. Robofish (talk) 21:24, 8 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Mark as historical. Although I still think complete deletion is justified, in the spirit of developing a consensus I am willing to shift my position to support designating this template as a historical artifact (so it can stay on existing pages where it is in use), but deprecating any new use in favor of {{Press}}. Regarding the requests that this be discussed elsewhere, this is supposed to be the place where consensus is sought on removing or deprecating a simple template. If there were some larger process involved (for example, as there would be for templates widely used for citations), then I could understand involving a different forum. But this is a single template that is rarely used, so it seems to fall easily into the scope of what TfD is supposed to handle. --RL0919 (talk) 23:31, 17 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Keep-{{press}} doesn't do the job for links that aren't used in an article. This template is heavily used and is very useful in identifying traffic spikes in otherwise obsecure articles. Take for example today, September 23, when bing linked to Neptune on its front page from ref. What other template could be used to notify people of a traffic spike? {{press}} is great for notifying when an article has been linked from a newspiece of some sort...but not a general front page link from a site. Well...I'm an anonymous editor...I'm interested to see what the entrenched wikipedian community comes to in the future if they keep this up...65.51.38.194 (talk) 23:03, 23 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • Except that the presumed traffic spike from Bing hasn't produced any uptick in editing on the article. The whole idea was to warn editors about a possible upsurge in editing, hence the link to the article's revision history that the template produces. If a traffic spike doesn't affect the article, who cares? Also, there's no evidence that the template is "heavily used". It seems to go onto pages occasionally, then linger there indefinitely, longer after its supposed purpose has been served. If you go to the list of transclusions and start clicking randomly, almost every use is from 2008 or earlier. If it were being used the way that was supposedly intended, most uses would be for recent incidents. --RL0919 (talk) 00:21, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
      • This is all the more reason to remove it from everything over a month old, and add categiories to the template "Articles linked from high traffic websites on X" to strictly enforce this. Older examples can be replaced with {{press}} if they're significant news sources (i.e. not random stories posted on digg, slashdot, reddit, etc.) 81.110.104.91 (talk) 17:14, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Keep, I agree with the position put forth by the anonymous user. Besides notifying editors of the potential traffic and hence editing surge, the template serves as a reminder that a notable site chose to link to wikipedia. If increased traffic doesn't increase editing, it's not a "who cares" situation, but rather why. Why hasn't the increased traffic induced editing; is the article that good, or is it something else. The template serves as a record of why there may have been a spike in traffic and that a notable website linked to wikipedia.Smallman12q (talk) 12:45, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Infobox of BD districts

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The result of the discussion was no consensus to support deletion. JPG-GR (talk) 02:09, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox of BD districts (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Template such for a several Bangladeshi districts. Should be converted to standard Infobox settlement per the upazila previous nomination. The only good thing is the map showing districts, ideally we need specific maps highlighting the actual district location..

Mmm, what I'll do is create us a full set of district locator maps.... There you go, took me a while but we now have 64 locator maps of all the districts. I've converted Bagerhat District as an example. Himalayan 13:21, 6 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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The people who opposed only did so out of sour grapes, because their own templates were threatended previously. Both have failed to acknowledge that by inisting we keep the only template we are retaining inaccurate information about actual district location when they should be replaced with accurate location maps I spent time creating here. This template does not have the capacity to include these maps and is redundant and lcearly inferior to the specific example I gave of the infobox settlement with proper map. Himalayan 12:00, 18 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Don't accuse other editors of "sour grapes" or questions their motives just because you have a difference of opinion. Pahari Sahib 07:25, 23 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Would this solve Ezhiki's concerns? Himalayan 17:53, 21 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

keep. Possibly useful.--ᜊᜓᜅ ᜅ᜔ ᜑᜎᜋᜅ᜔ ᜋᜑᜒᜏᜄ
(ᜑ᜔ᜎᜒᜃ ᜐᜓᜋᜎᜒ ᜃ ᜐ ᜂᜐᜉᜈ) 11:28, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Everybody Hates Chris

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The result of the discussion was delete. JPG-GR (talk) 02:12, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Everybody Hates Chris (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

This navbox mainly links to 3 articles that are already well linked to each other. For the second line of the navbox: There is a consensus not to connect actor because they appeared to the same show, specially when the show is over! Magioladitis (talk) 13:53, 6 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Kris Allen &Template:Adam Lambert

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The result of the discussion was delete at this time, with no prejudice toward recreation if said navboxes become appropriate/populate-able. JPG-GR (talk) 02:15, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Kris Allen (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Adam Lambert (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

It's just simply way too early for this. Let's wait until they actually releases a CD. :) There is barely more here than the AI8 template has. User:Woohookitty Diamming fool! 04:32, 16 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - But Kris is gonna release a CD by the end of September so it's early but not that too early. I created the Adam template cause his fans might be jealous of favoritism.--23prootie (talk) 13:34, 16 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Each singer has only released one single each, so it is too soon to have templates. Aspects (talk) 15:38, 16 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Kris Allen is possibly going to release a new single in at least two weeks (at most in a month) so he does deserve a template plus he had a notable song not released as a single.--23prootie (talk) 10:23, 17 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Sultanate of Rotonda table

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete per corresponding AFD. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:54, 16 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Sultanate of Rotonda table (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Template is orphaned, the article which it was supposed to be attached was considered and was deleted, Sultanate of Rotonda.JL 09 q?c 00:46, 16 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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