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The result of the debate was not a template. Non-admin close. JPG-GR (talk) 20:54, 21 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Template:List of University of Alberta current faculty (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

List of University of Alberta current faculty is a template sitting in article space, and is acting as article text, thus should not exist because it is in the wrong namespace, and templates should not be articles (or parts of articles) — 132.205.44.5 (talk) 19:57, 21 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was no consensus. RyanGerbil10(Kick 'em in the Dishpan!) 00:06, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Blpo (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

This is only used in one article at the moment as far as I can see, and to be honest I can't see it being particularly useful. Any article involving the mention of a living person could have this. It's currently being used in the talk page of Heath Ledger. But how long will it remain there? Until every last one of his friends and family dies? Or when the "recent death" tag is removed (which is due, actually)?

I think that this raises a point though - about BLP violations in non-biographies. Many articles that are not biographical in any way mention things about people which could be said to be controversial and doubtless some are unsourced. Thoughts? At any rate, this template is redundant to the fact I raised in this paragraph.. h i s s p a c e r e s e a r c h 20:33, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep - This template got created because everybody kept on using {{Blp}} for a dead person. After removing this tag many times (since the template is specifically for a living person) I asked why people kept on re-inserting the obviously incorrect tag. It seamed that new editors were drawn into the discussion because of its recent news and didn't considerer that some of the information being added was liable to those that survived him. So this template will most likely be used for high profile deaths to remind new editors that they should be wary of the information that is added to wikipedia & to make sure that the sources they add are indeed reliable. I doubt that this template will be used that often, but it serves a very good purpose when the news media draws people attention to a particular page. -- UKPhoenix79 (talk) 20:53, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. "WP:BLP does not apply... but WP:BLP applies, so libelous material must be removed. What is this template trying to say? BLP applies everywhere, so this template could be used anywhere. Editors who violate BLP are warned personally, those that repeatedly misbehave are blocked. Natural honeypots for BLP - biographical articles - are flagged with {{blp}}. But how do we define what constitues a likely target for BLP violations? There is no objective inclusion criteria, the template is self-contradictory and of minimal utility, and is is almost unused after two weeks' presence in a high-profile area of Wikipedia administration. Happymelon 21:30, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Simple BLP applies to living people and this is used as a reminder that although the main subject is alive please don't insert liable information about those still living. Its not contradictory but important for people to know the policies of wikipedia that normally wouldn't. -- UKPhoenix79 (talk) 01:56, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Locobot (talk) 01:16, 21 May 2009 (UTC) --WoohookittyWoohoo! 07:22, 21 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. I can't support this template due to the precedent it's setting. It pretty much would require every biographical article with even the most remote change of referencing a living person would need to be tagged with it, whether it's Benjamin Franklin or Bill Haley. The only solution I can suggest is to repurpose WP:BLP to something that is applicable to all biographical articles whether the subject is alive or dead. 23skidoo (talk) 23:41, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Like all templates should be applied with common sense. I find this particularly helpful with non-bio articles referencing real people. It's helpful to target articles where controversial material and newer POV warriors meet. Having a well written template has helped calm discussion back onto content without target specific editors who were already on the defensive. It's also a newer template so that it doesn't have widespread use doesn't concern me as we didn't create billboards and a marketing campaign to promote it. Benjiboi 08:05, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep
In practice I think its useful. agreed, BLP does not apply to the subject of the article of someone who is not alive. It applies to still-living people mentioned in the article, but that is true to all articles in WP--the reason why we need this template is because those ignorant of the BLP policy keep challenging it. But there is no reason to treat bio articles other than that with any special reticence or precaution besides our usual policies. In the US , libel is inapplicable--and i think I remember that the reason was so that historical (encyclopedic) truth could be debated without hindrance eventually--a good reason. NPOV requires equal treatment of all subjects.DGG (talk) 01:13, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Nousernamesleftcopper, not wood 01:50, 22 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Template:AniDB-P (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Another AniDB template that needs to be deleted as linking to this site violates Wikipedia policies, and a template only encourages such links.. Collectonian (talk) 05:22, 21 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Nousernamesleftcopper, not wood 01:49, 22 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Template:AniDB anime (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

This template should be deleted as it violates Wikipedia's policies regarding linking to copyright infringement. AniDB provides links to various fansub groups and downloading of illegal copies of copyrighted series.. Collectonian (talk) 03:54, 21 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete. Nousernamesleftcopper, not wood 01:48, 22 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Template:AniDB-A (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

This template should be deleted as it violates Wikipedia's policies regarding linking to copyright infringement. AniDB provides links to various fansub groups and downloading of illegal copies of copyrighted series.. Collectonian (talk) 03:54, 21 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was no consensus, not resolved. Of course, the option remains to being any one of these templates back to TfD in the future. RyanGerbil10(Kick 'em in the Dishpan!) 00:11, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox churches and cathedrals (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

This template is redundant as it is replaceable by {{Infobox religious building}}, which is more comprehensive. — Cheers, JackLee talk 00:14, 21 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

- Tinucherian (talk) 08:37, 21 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think Keep. A distinction is being made with the substitute which is rich in detail between the building itself and the congregation. While less rich in detail, the current template doesn't force that distinction. That is, there would most likely be only one article on the church and congregation. For now, for many churches, one article is sufficient. The building itself is merely a resource for the congregation (though it is probably pictured!). Student7 (talk) 15:38, 21 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Well {{Parish church}} certainly allows for the full range of Anglican distinctions to be made (and it's where my background lies of course), but fields like Presbytery, Synod and Circuit certainly aren't Anglican specific and virtually all the fields are optional. The clergy tiles certainly cover most bases as they stand, and it would be easy enough to add more if anything had been missed. David Underdown (talk) 21:33, 22 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was deletion. RyanGerbil10(Kick 'em in the Dishpan!) 00:09, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox UK church (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

This template is not used in any articles, and is redundant as it is replaceable by {{Infobox church}} or {{Parish church}} – see the above discussion regarding {{Infobox churches and cathedrals}}. — Cheers, JackLee talk 18:49, 22 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. —MJCdetroit (yak) 03:55, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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