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The result of the debate was userfy. IronGargoyle 03:27, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Oasishongkong (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
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The result of the debate was Speedy delete T1 - I looked up T1 in the dictionary and found this template. --B 13:33, 19 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Bullshit01 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Delete. Contentious template, should use (Category:Wikipedia maintenance templates) instead. — Intangible2.0 22:56, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

But it's funny. Don't you think we should have some funny templates? Cheers, JetLover (talk) 23:42, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Although it made me smile, I'd never use it on an article no matter how true. Working on the DEP project, I know how easily editors take offense at any suggestion their writing needs improvement -- best to be a bit more diplomatic about it.--Fabrictramp 00:02, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was keep. IronGargoyle 04:00, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Behave (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Misguided attempt to write a humorous user warning. I don't see what the painful attempt to be funny/lighthearted adds to this template compared to, say, Template:Joke. Its bigger brother, Template:Seriously, seems to be on its way to deletion below, and for the same reasons this one should also be deleted. — Terraxos 21:09, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep, you have some good reasons but I think it's rather humurous and might cool down a vandal.

  • Keep, I think it's good to have something that isn't just WP jargon. It's a message that people actually understand, instead of "Users who fail to comply with WP:V and WP:RS may be tem. blocked indefinately dure to WP:BBB and WP:AZX." It's actually a template that sounds like someone's talking to them, instead of a robot. Same as Template:Seriously. -Violask81976 22:16, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Looks and feels amateurish. Using humor in telling people to lay off the jokes sends a mixed message, and, I think, is rather likely to backfire. Feezo (Talk) 22:19, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep This template has been around since before I started editing. It hasn't backfired yet, so why delete something that might work? Bushcarrot (Talk·Guestbook) 23:06, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep a good diplomatic template for users who may have just crossed the line unintentionaly or jokingly altered a page with a joke image, etc. as opposed to a malicious vandalism.--Scorpion451 01:43, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep Being a little nice to vandals, I think, is a great way to get them to contribute rather than vandalize, and maybe, just maybe, one of them will, because someone was nice to them. Stern warnings just don't have the same effect on editors, and the more contributors, the better. Arky ¡Hablar Conmigo! 02:08, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was delete. IronGargoyle 03:34, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox City UY (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Delete. The articles using this infobox were standardized to {{Infobox Settlement}} and expanded upon. Talk page is empty. — MJCdetroit 20:03, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was keep. IronGargoyle 03:54, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Template:User Northern Cyprus (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I consider this template disruptive and very controversial as it's referred to a non recognized defacto country. Also, the template is used only by one Wikipedian. I believe it should be deleted. — KaragouniS 14:09, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. At first, Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus is an independent country which is recognized by Republic of Turkey, Nakhchivan Autonomous Republic and Organization of the Islamic Conference. It is not a non recognized defacto country. Know your facts.
Secondly, Northern Cyprus is a seperate region (legal, or illegal, it is seperate), it has own government, telecommunication and Internet system. Therefore, adding Wikipedians from TRNC to the list of Republic of Cyprus is not suitable. I believe that there are and will be some users from TRNC, they can use this template if they wish. Simple.
Also, check these userboxes: TRNC is an independent country, are they? Template:User_Chechen Template:User_Palatinate Template:User_Wallonia
Note: The suggester for deletion has vandalised the template for several times, please check the talk page and edit history.
For these reasons, i strongly oppose. Kaygtr 18:07, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Notice:This is not a place for political propaganda. And you know TRNC is a ILLEGAL occupied territory according to United Nations. --KaragouniS 18:36, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep., for reasons stated by Kaygtr. 206.154.229.139 20:08, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Whether or not TRNC is illegal, it is - as Kaygtr points out - a de facto independent territory. No other Userbox would be appropriate for editors from that area. Since we already have Userboxes for other unrecognised (or quasi-recognised) territories (e.g. Template:User Republic of China), it makes sense to keep this one. Terraxos 20:58, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, since there is a de facto government in place in northern Cyprus that uses this terminology. It would be different as a polemic user box, like 'Northern Cyprus is part of Turkey!', which I would vote to delete. I'm also not sure about Template:User_Wallonia since Wallonia is not a de facto government. EdJohnston 15:14, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Wallonia is a de facto and de jure subnational government. It's like saying I'm from California. Argyriou (talk) 16:39, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep -hard to swallow, but it factually exists, fortunately or unfortunately. KaragouniS should be glad he will be able to locate users who use the template, and know what views they represent. Then we can bring it up on the next Epsilon Team conference to arrange how we deal with them. :-) NikoSilver 21:56, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Not divisive in any significant way. --YbborTalk 22:25, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Northern Cyprus is in fact a separate entity, whatever its interantional standing, adn if users who reside there choose to so self-identify, i see nothing provocative or devisive in that, at elast no more than in any userbox proclaiming current residence or citizenship, and less than some. DES (talk) 22:29, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note the category fed by this template was put on Cfd (the debate there should have been at UCfd). I assume by keeping this (looks headed that way) almost WP:SNOWing now, we don't need to debate it at UCfd. I was expecting the debate to have been carried on there, but seems that's now moot. I've removed the Cfd from the cat. Carlossuarez46 06:35, 19 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Northern Cyprus exists, one way or another. As for the complaints against userboxes for Wallonia, the Palatinate, etc., there is nothing wrong with stating what sub-national region you are from (although placing them in "Category:NATION of origin user templates" is questionable, but i guess there is nowhere else to put them). - 52 Pickup 10:40, 19 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was keep. IronGargoyle 04:03, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Sw-in-universe (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Redundant with {{in-universe|subject=[[Star Wars]]}}. Links to this template have been replaced with links to the regular in-universe. — EEMeltonIV 14:01, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Who wants to type all that out? What the nom may not be aware of is that it adds articles to Category:Star Wars articles that need to differentiate between fact and fiction, as Star Wars does not fit well into the film, television, literature or video game subcategories. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 05:01, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete. IronGargoyle 04:07, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Hayeren (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

This is only a meta-template for {{lang}} with the language code of the Armenian language, and it is therefore unneeded. All non-English words simply use the template {{lang}} or {{rtl-lang}} directly. —surueña 13:47, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ambivalent. I created the template, but if a more standard template works better, let's use it. Be sure to migrate all existing embeddings first. It was designed for frequent seamless inline text in articles, not as an "Armenian: Աբգդ" at the tops of articles, so keep that in mind. - Gilgamesh 23:20, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
(weak) delete . We need to spread the word that {{lang}} is to be used for any language regardless of its script. Script rendering issues need to be addressed in commons.css, not in templates. The same holds for {{Ivrit}} (he), {{polytonic}} (grc), {{ar}} (ar) and a few others. Also note {{script}} which is intended to render specific scripts by ISO 15924 code rather than ISO 639 ({{script|Armn|այբուբեն}} vs. {{lang|hy|այբուբեն}}: այբուբեն vs. այբուբեն). dab (𒁳) 07:18, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. That's right, in fact {{lang}} can also be used to specify the script. Although normally it is not needed to specify the script [1], some languages are usually written in more than one script e.g. {{lang|ja-Kana|アキラ}}, or for transliterations into Latin characters, e.g. {{rtl-lang|ar|المملكة العربية السعودية}}, {{lang|ar-Latn|al-Mamlaka al-ʻArabiyya as-Saʻūdiyya}}. See Template talk:lang. —surueña 13:14, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was keep. IronGargoyle 04:09, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Climate chart (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Delete. This newly created template is redundant to {{Infobox Weather}}. The information is just displayed differently. London's article actually displays two weather boxes. MJCdetroit 01:49, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep (I created this). It's a climate chart that looks like a standard climate chart. It's meant to obviate the need for creating and uploading climate charts (and the consequential lack of them in Wikipedia). As for tables, most of them could probably be replaced with a chart, unless they convey additional information. Zocky | picture popups 02:18, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep I think both are useful in their own right and whilst they display the same set of data, they display it from a different analytical viewpoint. If this template displayed the data in a non-standard way then I could support this being deleted, however a climate chart is a standard format to display this type of data. Nicko (TalkContribs) 06:36, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. It's a standard climate chart. If this is how it's supposed to be shown, then it should be here. Showing it in any other way is redundant. It helps cut down on images. Accessibillity doesn't seem to be a problem to me, it's pretty easy to understand. -Violask81976 21:07, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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