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The result of the debate was deletion of both. RyanGerbil10(Kick 'em in the dishpan!) 02:57, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox Extratropical Cyclone (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Template:Infobox Extratropical Cyclone 01A (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

This template is used on one article that contains original research and copyright violations. It incorporates a category system, which does not exist for extratropical cyclones, and has no real hope of being used on any other articles. Also nominating Template:Infobox Extratropical Cyclone 01A, as instead of using the original template, the creator made a separate template for the article in question. Coredesat talk. o_O 21:03, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was deletion. RyanGerbil10(Kick 'em in the dishpan!) 03:11, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Los Angeles USD (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

This template is already ugly and large. If it is completely populated with all of the schools in the Los Angeles Unified School District, there would be 1,035 total schools [1]. This is a very good example of where a category (see Los Angeles Unified School District) or a list is much better than a template. This template should be deleted post-haste. BlankVerse 20:27, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was delete (recreate on userpsace if desired) -- Drini 21:09, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:User AS400 CL (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

New replacement outside of main template space is at {{User:UserBox/AS400-CL}}. — MrDolomite | Talk 20:19, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment Why not just edit your changes into the existing template (which also retains it's edit history). - jc37 00:57, 11 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment MrDolomite's trying to implement the German Userbox Solution; he's saying that as the template has been germanized, the template-space template can go. However, I'm not expressing an opinion on this one because I don't want to get caught up in the Userbox Wars. --ais523 10:40, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete While a Move is better, 5 pages link to the userbox. Electrawn 21:57, 11 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Oops, yes it was a GUS and a rewrite of one of my first stabs at userboxes. *shudder* Oh, the code :) Was going to do the move, but I had already created the page, so I couldn't move over top of it. I'll keep that in mind for next time. However the closing admin does it is fine, but one of those templates has to go :) Thx. — MrDolomite | Talk 15:05, 13 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • You could always try boldly putting {{db-histmerge}} on your version to see what happens... --ais523 16:38, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was Speedy delete per CSDs A6 and T1. Nandesuka 22:42, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:False accuser (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Attack template - created with no community discussion or consensus - probably a speedy candidate SFC9394 19:52, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A template created in order to counter false allegations of sockpuppetry. Orkadian 19:56, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Strong keep: I have suffered at the hands of false sockpuppetry accusations. (Indeed, User:Orkadian, above, has even been accused of being a sockpuppet of me!) It is one form of harassment that has put me off contributing to Wikipedia. This template certainly has my consensus! Mallimak 20:12, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

To other editors - please be aware this template has no consensus, policy, guideline or discussion to back it up - it was created unilaterally by Orkadian who has been engaging in a borderline harassment of another editor, and created to aid in that attack. Convenient that mailmark is back on the scene - just as one of Orkadian's templates is up for deletion. SFC9394 20:23, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Just to put everyone in the picture, I am not conveniently "back on the scene". User:Orkadian contacted me to tell me what is going on. He is sick to death of User:Mais oui!'s harassement. He had barely started out on Wikipedia when he was struck down with sockpuppet accusations from Mais oui! that he was me. I had received so much harassment from User:Mais oui! that I gave up contributing. (All my edits are monitored by Mais oui! and reverted.) There seems to be no defence against harassment on Wikipedia. I fully support Orkadian here. Mallimak 20:49, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
"User:Orkadian contacted me to tell me what is going on" - his contribs say he hasn't posted on your talk page in a week. Something doesn't add up. SFC9394 21:06, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia talk pages are not the only way in the universe to contact somebody! Mallimak 22:10, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed there is - if I was wrongly accused of being a sock then the first thing I would do would be to not engage in unlogged communication with that person. This isn't the place for a sock discussion - but the editing patterns of both editors is highly suggestive of multiple accounts. Tonight Orkadian edits up to 20:56 - I put a template up for deletion - then 6 minutes later you are editing (after 3 days of not posting anything) and nothing more is heard from Orkadian for the evening. Indeed you post an afd notice on a user's talk page, [2], before you even post here. Why on earth would a user independent of Orkadian be posting such messages before even commenting on the deletion itself? TBH if you were sensible you would drop the sock - that would allow you to fight whatever battles you want here at WP (and god knows there are plenty of people who are here to do nothing but fight battles). Operating with socks is just going to lead to any point you try and make being completely undermined. SFC9394 22:33, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
"Drop the sock"! There is no sock, except in Mais oui!'s twisted imagination. Can somebody please do something about Mais oui! and his constant harassment? I became a user to make contributions to Wikipedia in a subject area I know a lot about, not to "fight battles". I never asked for this (nor Orkadian either). Orkadian gives a reasonable explanation as to why we have similar IP addresses - we both live in Orkney! And yes, since all this nonsense started and he started be attacked like me we have got to know each other personally. Mallimak 22:45, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Question: are we going to have a "false accuser of false accusery" template too? ;) j/k I don't see this is any worse than the sockpuppet templat unless it is misused. Is it possible to put these in userspace and avoid upsetting people? FWIW, i'm not a fan of the sockpuppet template, it is OK at wiki to edit under one username as long as you don't use them both to advocate the same position or get around blocks, yet I see allegattions of "socks" whenever it is uncovered that one user uses different names. Justforasecond 20:32, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Speedy delete. BlankVerse 20:41, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy delete as an attack template. --Coredesat talk. o_O 21:07, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy delete as an attack template. Either someone acted in good faith adding a Sockpuppet tag, in which case why attack them, or they have a habit of adding them on little or no evidence, in which case work with them and explain why this is a Bad Idea, or if they continue and are disruptive to the project, use dispute resolution, or if this is all they do for no reason, they're a bv and therefore ban them. This template is worse than useless; it exists only to attack and does not address the possible situations where this template might, by a hostile and childish person, be considered applicable. One puppy's opinion. KillerChihuahua?!? 21:19, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - More harm than worth. If falsely accused, then the sockpuppet check will come up with no evidence and will be removed. It has happened to me. Sad, but responding with this template is worse. -- Avi 21:26, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy Delete RN 21:32, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was deletion. RyanGerbil10(Kick 'em in the dishpan!) 02:55, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Philippines (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

This template is 100% redundant with Template:Indy Philippine cities, Template:Metro Manila, and Template:Philippine regions. It's unnecessary, and I suggest it be deleted. --Coffee 15:21, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was delete -- Drini 21:14, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Usbob FC squad (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

This template is only being used by two members on their user pages. If they want to use it so much, they can use the coding on their pages instead. -- Mattythewhite 14:16, 10/9/06

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The result of the debate was delete -- Drini 21:14, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Wars of Israel (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Out of date and nothing links here -- Kendrick7 10:10, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was delete -- Drini 21:14, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox Israel-Lebanon conflict (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Just a single-article transclusion of {{Infobox Military Conflict}}; delete it like all the others. Kirill Lokshin 06:11, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was delete -- Drini 21:14, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Unproven sockpuppeteer (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

No reason ever to tag user accounts as being sockpuppets if it can't be proved. It looks like this would only be used for harrasment. PinchasC | £€åV€ m€ å m€§§åg€ 05:22, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's for the benefit of accused users, not to harrass them. The current template is being used for users that are not proven sockpuppeteers. This provides an alternative. Justforasecond 05:27, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
There is already Template:Sockpuppet for when there is a shred of evidence but not fully proven. --PinchasC | £€åV€ m€ å m€§§åg€ 05:29, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hmmm. So there is a template that is used when it can't be proven? Why is the newer one more harrassing? It goes out of its way to assume good faith. Justforasecond 06:00, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hmmm. Are you guys saying there is abuse potential or this duplicates a template already out there? Cause if its both, we should probably delete the other template that says the same thing....
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The result of the debate was delete -- Drini 21:15, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Hawaii_State_Highways (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

These templates tend to be red link farms, and a list and category are much useful. (Although this needs to be checked against the current list before deletion, as it is inaccurate too). VA's got deleted, OR too... Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 04:47, 10 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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