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The result of the debate was Delete. IceKarma 03:34, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Quantum-theory (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Very long and only used in one page. Seems much better to have only in Quantum mechanics.Rex the first talk | contribs 00:07, 27 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was Delete. IceKarma 03:34, 9 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Resurrected and renamed template that was deleted last year. The reason I give for re-delete comes from the original deletion proposal and a subsequent comment: Category scheme in a box. Very pretty, but it doesn't even have any content specifically related to any given article that it's put on. It does not follow the policy for navigational templates because it is more like a combination of TOC templates for the following: List of manga, Mangaka, and Manga. Secondly, the links for List of manga and List of Manga-ka are in alphabetical order, thus making it redundant to categories. --Kunzite 23:15, 26 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was no consensus. - Mailer Diablo 21:29, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

lo'wI'vam Sung Hol 'oH tlhIngan Hol’e'. (meaning This user is a native speaker of Klingon.) is a bad joke. I am proposing it's deletion and BJAODNing. Computerjoe's talk 19:33, 26 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was no consensus. - Mailer Diablo 21:29, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:User iamafish-en (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Humorous template restored by DRV because the previous listing was closed prematurely. Xoloz 17:18, 26 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • In fairness last week would have only been a no consensus keep. It is right to debate these again. Sorry that some of the above folks feel that process is wasting their time. Hmmm... how did this all get started? -MrFizyx 23:42, 26 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was keep. - Mailer Diablo 21:29, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:User iamalemming-en (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Humorous template restored by DRV because the previous listing was closed prematurely. Xoloz 17:17, 26 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was keep. - Mailer Diablo 21:29, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:User iamamonarch-en (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Humorous template restored by DRV because the previous listing was closed prematurely. Xoloz 17:16, 26 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was no consensus. - Mailer Diablo 21:29, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:User iamanaeroplane-en (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Humorous template restored by DRV because the previous listing was closed prematurely. Xoloz 17:15, 26 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was keep. - Mailer Diablo 21:29, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:PDFlink (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

  • What is the point in this? What makes a link to a PDF file so special that it needs to be distinguished from any other links? I don't think it makes sense to have this. — Timwi 14:31, 26 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have updated the docs to be a little clearer about this. Admittedly, pdf files are not the only ones to be considered "special" in the sense specified there; the same (more or less) holds for Outlook presentations, Word documents, movie files(!) and many others. What I would like is a Wikimedia extension working similarly to the TargetAlert extension for Firefox (which I would be happy with, if it didn't continuously leak objects :-/). In the meantime... —Gennaro Prota•Talk 23:25, 28 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, there is something special about PDF files, many peoples internet browers don't display them but rather they get downloaded. The template needs fixing though as currently it seems to cause a line breck.--JK the unwise 15:03, 26 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • So the browser pops up a "Save As" dialog. So what? Why does the user need advance warning of that? — Timwi 00:04, 29 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      • We can't presume that everyone who visits Wikipedia is completely computer-savvy. There are many, many many novice users who are intimidated by computer technology. Should we '"dumb down" the Internet to accomodate this? No, of course not - but this template doesn't do that. It's a simple, thoughtful advisory that a link requires something other than a standard browser. --Ckatz 19:35, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, useful as per JK the unwise. I think I fixed the linebreak issue. Kusma (討論) 15:43, 26 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - usefull Agathoclea 21:32, 26 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per JK -MrFizyx 23:52, 26 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep It would be nice to be warned if my computer is going to stall for the next three minutes. Sophy's Duckling 14:16, 27 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • It is not Wikipedia's responsibility to warn you if your computer locks up on any particular file type. Use TargetAlert (google for it) or any other viable alternative. Don't push it on users of systems that works properly. — Timwi 00:04, 29 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      • It's not a question of Wikipedia's "responsibility", but more a matter of common courtesy. I would hardly consider this to be a major inconvenience to "users of systems that works properly." What impression do we create if we take the alternate approach, and expect all computer users to have the same comfort level and technical expertise as those of us who enjoy building the things? --Ckatz 19:35, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Sophy's duckling. TheGrappler 05:20, 28 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment All of the above Keep comments are based on arguments I have refuted. — Timwi 00:04, 29 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. I believe this is made unnecessary by the inclusion of the 'Format' parameter in {{cite_web}}, which allows inclusion in a citation a note indicating that the link leads to a particular format of file, such as 'PDF'. User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 00:25, 29 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep It is common courtesy on the web to alert users to "PDFHell". To Ceyockey: not all external links are in the CITET format. Copysan 05:04, 29 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: What happens when you click on a PDF in most browsers is a program pops up, downloads the document, while your computer locks up for a few secondes, so a PDF template is indeed useful for the greater good of the comunity. Deathawk 02:13, 30 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Nicely shows if a link is a PDF, which is important, especially when they take way longer to download and are akward to view for some people. PDFs also have a strange affinity to crashing on some computers. – Xolatron 04:15, 31 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Users should not be bounced to non-HTML pages without warning. PDF's do all manners of undesireable things on some systems. However, I'm not a huge fan of its current implementation. I think superscript would be better, perhaps even without the image; for example: PDF link PDF. More ideally, the Wiki software could be modified so that it could somehow be instructed to change the external link icon to indicate that it is a PDF (no idea where such a software suggestion would be made though). -- Zawersh 06:17, 31 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: This is a useful feature, and - perhaps most importantly - it makes the user experience easier for novice computer users. Ideally, it would be nice to have a single template that can display appropriate icons for different file formats, such as .DOC and .PDF, but until someone codes that... --Ckatz 19:35, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep I personally always hesitate to open a PDF-link, because it opens to slow. --Donar Reiskoffer 07:27, 2 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was keep. - Mailer Diablo 21:29, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:User Singularitarian (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Granted, I realize this is a userbox, and blahblahblahkeep/deletealluserboxes, yeah, I know. Userbox, schmuserbox, this template is almost wholly unused, to the point where the accompanying category was speedied for a lack of members. However you feel about userboxes, this is not a useful or used userbox. (This was AFDed, by me, several months ago, and that AFD ended up being a mostly-ignored no consensus, with most users voting a variation of "Foo all userboxes!") - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 03:19, 26 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

For reference the previous NO CONSENSUS debate can be found here -MrFizyx 22:10, 30 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

past ops) 04:49, 28 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • weak subst and delete per nom after further review. Only two editors use this and neither has taken up the cause here. Seems a fair enough reason to delete. -MrFizyx 22:23, 30 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete. - Mailer Diablo 21:29, 3 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Pokémon Criminal Masterminds (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Go-nowhere navbox. Unused, and three of the four links go to redirects. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 02:30, 26 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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