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The result of the debate was delete. However, since this template is being replaced by Template:World gym champs, it will be re-created into a redirect to that template to prevent other users or the original creator from creating it again. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 02:58, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:World Rhythmic Gymnastics Championships

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Template:World Rhythmic Gymnastics Championships (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
I am nominating these templates for speedy deletion because I have just replaced them with Template:World gym champs. There is no reason to keep them. --Jared [T]/[+] 22:10, 6 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was delete. However, since this template is being replaced by Template:World gym champs, it will be re-created into a redirect to that template to prevent other users or the original creator from creating it again. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 02:58, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:World Artistic Gymnastics Championships

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Template:World Artistic Gymnastics Championships (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
I am nominating these templates for speedy deletion because I have just replaced them with Template:World gym champs. There is no reason to keep them. --Jared [T]/[+] 22:10, 6 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Logo2

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The result of the debate was deleted. -Frazzydee|✍ 13:23, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fork of Template:Logo. —Cryptic (talk) 21:52, 6 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was keep Zzyzx11 (Talk) 02:53, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Redir from US postal ab

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Template:Redir from US postal ab (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
This template is heavily used; if anyone can show the slightest value in it I'll withdraw my objection. Its only function seems to be to add a cat to a rather uninteresting kind of redirect. John Reid 19:22, 6 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep, potentially slightly useful. Via editing this template, it is for example easy to change whether these redirects should be in the "unprintworthy redirects" category or not. That can of course be done with (sub-)categories alone, but I don't see any advantage in subst'ing all the uses of this template. Kusma (討論) 01:07, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Do you mean that the purpose of the cat is to group this type of redirect because it is so uninteresting -- therefore perhaps to be excluded in some theoretical print version of the project? I can't quite see value in that (especially as it is quite unthinkable ever to print the project in anything like a comprehensive version); but I'll go so far as to agree someone else might. John Reid 04:00, 9 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Exactly: these redirects are "boring", and classified as such. I can't tell you what exactly the creators of the template were planning to do with it, though I am willing to believe they knew what they were doing. About printing: the German Wikipedia (which is about 1/3 the size of the English) is going to print, see for example here. Kusma (討論) 04:09, 9 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Academy Awards Chron

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The result of the debate was kept -Frazzydee|✍ 02:40, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Academy Awards Chron (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Listify: The biggest problem I see on this navigation box right now is there are currently way too many red links (ie there are no articles). Other templates have been deleted in the past because of the excess of red links. If someone is willing to create the articles, I will change my mind, but until then the template should be removed for now. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 17:26, 6 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. Is it possible to hide the box from the page in the meantime, rather than simply deleting it entirely? I'd recommend keeping it, in spite of the red links. MisfitToys 22:06, 6 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. I'd like to see it kept - maybe spruced up a little bit. I think the biggest problem I see with it is that about 50% of the years link to empty pages. I'll try to fill a few of those in, but I can't do it all by myself. If someone wants to help, let me know./Will1410 23:38, 6 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep The red links may inspire cinema buffs to do the research and fill in the gaps. I personally could not care much less about the Academy Awards and their history --- but 40 or 50 million people do watch them every year and the news is dominated for about about a week or two every year ... and they receive inumerable references throughout the rest of the year. So they are clearly as important a cultural phenomenon as any of the specific works of drama and fiction that are included in Wikipedia. Wiktionary not withstanding Wikipedia has certainly blurred the lines among almanac, gazetteer, lexicon and encyclopedia and I expect it to continue to do so and I see benefits that arise from it as well. JimD 00:05, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep It'll grow. jengod 00:20, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep If anything, the redlinks are good, as they make obvious how much work is needed in what should be a "fun" popular culture area. Redlinks help us grow. Xoloz 02:43, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: red links will recede over time. savidan(talk) (e@) 04:44, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: I made the templete so can't anyhow say I want to deete it. About the fact that currently there are many red link is due to incomplete wikipedia information about Academy awards. Very soon all the pages will be there and so there no point about the red links. I couldn't put up all the pages because of lack of time. I conceived it as being a faster method of travelling through timeine than the already there previous - next navigation. which will soon loose its purpose. There is such a naviation table for Grammy Awards too. Vivek 07:18, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep --Terence Ong 11:48, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep It'll grow. --Tone 14:17, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per above users. Deckiller 22:52, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
So I concider it a unanimous decesion and there fore remove the to be deleted tag. Vivek 00:08, 9 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Even though the discussion is currently unanimous, as a general rule we keep TFD, CFD, and AFD debates open for the full 7 day time period. Please do not remove the TFD tag beforehand. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 01:40, 9 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for telling and sorry for ignorance. Vivek 04:04, 9 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete Zzyzx11 (Talk) 02:48, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Wstress5

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Template:Wstress5 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
I am the creator of this template which is now redundant to {{wstress3d}}. All uses have been converted to the alternative template. Cactus.man ✍ 12:59, 6 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was keep Zzyzx11 (Talk) 02:49, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Antarctic expeditions sidebar

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Template:Antarctic expeditions sidebar (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

(2 delete, 4 keep)

DELETE - Template is outdated, to large and offers only minimum information, replaced by List of Antarctica expeditions, which can be added to articles ==See also== section. Cordially SirIsaacBrock 00:48, 6 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was delete Zzyzx11 (Talk) 02:39, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Dominican Republic infobox

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Template:Dominican Republic infobox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Delete-- It was reformated to the Template:Infobox country form. MJCdetroit 02:07, 6 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the debate was no consensus -> keep. Also keep in mind that WP:AUM is currently being disputed. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 02:29, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox Australia

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Template:Infobox Australia (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Delete. With exception to the edit action, it is a carbon copy of the Template:Infobox country form. Exactly. So why does there need to be a special carbon copy of it? MJCdetroit 15:07, 6 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

We regularly delete many, many templates for being single-use. They are then substed into the article without further ado. I fail to see why that precedent doesn't work here.--naryathegreat | (talk) 02:45, 9 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Useful to keep the template mess out of the article namespace. There is no shortqge of template namespace, and this template is not in opposition to any template guidelines.--nixie 01:34, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. This same discussion happened when I joined Wikipedia over a year ago and it was resolved to have the template outside the article. It is stupid to change things back and forth over time. Xtra 02:51, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Substing this in the article makes it easier for anyone to edit it, which is the entire point of a wiki. Pagrashtak 06:22, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. --Tone 14:19, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep: it assists in the maintenance of the Australia article: by reducing the risk of vandalism to what is an essentially static feature; by lowering the article size; and, by removing an excessive and intimidating mass of code that can serve only as a deterrent to legitimate edits. Being a metatemplate is not a reason for deletion. Had the nominator asked, or indeed noticed the previous deletion debates, he'd have been well-informed on the need for this template. --cj | talk 01:17, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
There's no need. It works on over 130 other country articles, somehow I think it will work here too. That's a precedent.--naryathegreat | (talk) 01:45, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
cj, good thing that I didn't ask you. As for your tone, allow me to retort. Well informed...for the need for a carbon copy. Yeaaa, ok then... Oh, and yes I did notice the previous deletion debate and I don't think that I am the only person who thinks it's silly. I agree with Narya, if it works elsewhere it will work here. As for vandalism...it is going to happen—one extra mouse click is not Fort Knox. If the articles for places that are loved as much around the world as the U.S.A and Israel can deal with vandels (and use the infobox)—it is safe to say that Australia can manage too. You know...without the impregnable extra mouse click. MJCdetroit 03:41, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not quite seeing how being in Australia is any more confusing than in United States or People's Republic of China or any of the other 120+ articles it's used in. If it survives there, I believe it will survive just fine here.--naryathegreat | (talk) 02:47, 9 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
How do you explain the many single-use templates which have been deleted for that reason? They are substed into the article, which introduces sometimes complicated markup into the article. This really isn't about helping new editors. The Template:Infobox Country markup is actually quite clean, precisely because it is a template. A bunch of single-use metatemplates serve no one.--naryathegreat | (talk) 02:38, 11 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete Zzyzx11 (Talk) 02:24, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:El Salvador infobox

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Template:El Salvador infobox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Delete. Out of date and was reformated to the Template:Infobox country form. MJCdetroit 18:50, 6 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why should we keep an orphaned template?--naryathegreat | (talk) 02:34, 11 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was kept and replaced with text from logo2. Note that no tfd notice was put on the template, so a lot of people probably weren't aware that the template was up for deletion. Nevertheless, I'm replacing the text here with logo2 and partially using my own judgement on this since we won't lose any functionality. If there are any issues that I overlooked, you can let me know and I'll deal with it. -Frazzydee|✍ 13:19, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Logo (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
This template has a glitch that causes it to include everything in it's subcats in the main cat as well, creating a HUGE category, despite that fact that several editors are working to sort it. {{Logo2}} (created by User:JeffW) ostensibliy corrects this problem, and is now primarily being used by the wikipedians doing the sorting. This temp should be deleted, or (my preference) it should be replaced with the text of logo2, so that temp:logo can still be used, but without the glitch.Esprit15d 19:29, 6 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds like replacing the text would be a better option; why make a 2 if we don't need it? .:.Jareth.:. babelfish 19:53, 6 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the debate was delete Zzyzx11 (Talk) 02:17, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Template:User respect

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Template:User respect (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

POV userbox. Computerjoe 20:01, 6 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Per the new userbox policy which should soon be put into action, divisive/POV/freespeech UBXs can be allowed as long as they're just SUBSTed on user pages. Misza13 T C 13:12, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Untrue. Proposal failed consensus; see below. John Reid 04:06, 9 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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