Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Rollback
Rollback
- JacktheBrown (t · th · c · del · cross-wiki · SUL · edit counter · pages created (xtools · sigma) · non-automated edits · BLP edits · undos · manual reverts · rollbacks · logs (blocks · rights · moves) · rfar · spi · cci)
In the last two months, in addition to my editing activities, I'm also quite active in rollbacks (primarily vandalism); in order to facilitate my work, if you consider that I'm skilled in this, I request the granting of these rights. JacktheBrown (talk) 14:40, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- Rasteem (t · th · c · del · cross-wiki · SUL · edit counter · pages created (xtools · sigma) · non-automated edits · BLP edits · undos · manual reverts · rollbacks · logs (blocks · rights · moves) · rfar · spi · cci)
I respectfully request Rollback access to facilitate the use of Huggle, which will allow me to promptly and efficiently revert vandalism. I've been monitoring Recent Changes for the past 2-3 months, reverting disruptive edits.
I'm familiar with some Wikipedia policies, including: Reporting repeated vandals after 4 talk page warnings at WP:AIV, reporting reporting sock puppet accounts at WP:SPI and following the 3-revert rule (WP:3RR). And also I'm familiar with the use of Twinkle. ®asteem Talk 20:32, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- I see that you are failing to consistently warn editors when you revert their edits. Why? It's important to leave a notification for every revert you make (especially when reverting good faith edits). Are you aware of tools such as Twinkle or Ultraviolet which make this extremely easy? -Fastily 21:32, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- Fastily, I'm already using Twinkle. I've warned many users for vandalism, but I don't warn new users who have made only one edit, as per "Back Biting" guideline. Instead, I typically warn a user after their second vandalism attempt. But in future I'll consider warning users even after one non-constructive edit. ®asteem Talk 21:47, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- No, that is incorrect. You need to be leaving notifications (or warnings) for every revert, regardless of how many edits the user has made or whether this is the user's first instance of vandalism. -Fastily 01:07, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
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I'll always leave a warning notice on their talk page without digging into their number of edits. ®asteem Talk 01:54, 3 November 2024 (UTC)- Great, could you please now go do some RC patrol in which you demonstrate how you will always be notifying all editors when you revert their edits? Also please don't use
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in your replies to me; on this page at least, these are for admin use only. -Fastily 02:36, 3 November 2024 (UTC)- Sure, I'll do RC patrol & will always notify users when I revert their changes. I sincerely apologize for using {done} or {not done} previously. ®asteem Talk 03:17, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
- Just took another look at your recent contributions and I'm still seeing instances where you are reverting edits and failing to notify the editor: 1, 2, 3. Didn't you just promise that you would be more diligent about this? -Fastily 22:10, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- I sincerely apologize for these mistakes. However, I didn't mean to make such errors; in essence, the internet is quite slow where I reside, which is in a hilly area. I accidentally lost my internet connection, which resulted in these two reverts for the edit warnings I neglected to leave. I came here to reapply for rollback rights after attempting to adhere to the RC log and maintaining a clean record with the goal of leaving edit warnings for every update I reverted for non-constructive edits. I sincerely apologize for these errors. Please review my recent history of RC reverts and reconsider my request for the rollback right. ®asteem Talk 21:39, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- If that's the case, could you please slow down and double check that you have actually left warnings? I'm finding examples as recently as today where you failed to notify the editor (e.g. 1, 2, 3). Also I see that you were just warned for edit warring. Would you care to comment on that? Courtesy ping for @NXcrypto. -Fastily 03:45, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- I assume Rasteem is on a verge of getting topic banned for his aggressive and frequent edit warring especially on caste topics. I really don't think he can be trusted with any advanced permissions at all. Nxcrypto Message 04:04, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, sure, I'll slow down, but I gave them an edit warning for this revert [1][2] It appeared as though I've not given them an edit warning because wide range from this IP is blocked. For the other last two reverts, I never gave them an edit warning because this IP was already globally blocked.
- If that's the case, could you please slow down and double check that you have actually left warnings? I'm finding examples as recently as today where you failed to notify the editor (e.g. 1, 2, 3). Also I see that you were just warned for edit warring. Would you care to comment on that? Courtesy ping for @NXcrypto. -Fastily 03:45, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- I sincerely apologize for these mistakes. However, I didn't mean to make such errors; in essence, the internet is quite slow where I reside, which is in a hilly area. I accidentally lost my internet connection, which resulted in these two reverts for the edit warnings I neglected to leave. I came here to reapply for rollback rights after attempting to adhere to the RC log and maintaining a clean record with the goal of leaving edit warnings for every update I reverted for non-constructive edits. I sincerely apologize for these errors. Please review my recent history of RC reverts and reconsider my request for the rollback right. ®asteem Talk 21:39, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- Just took another look at your recent contributions and I'm still seeing instances where you are reverting edits and failing to notify the editor: 1, 2, 3. Didn't you just promise that you would be more diligent about this? -Fastily 22:10, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Sure, I'll do RC patrol & will always notify users when I revert their changes. I sincerely apologize for using {done} or {not done} previously. ®asteem Talk 03:17, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
- Great, could you please now go do some RC patrol in which you demonstrate how you will always be notifying all editors when you revert their edits? Also please don't use
- No, that is incorrect. You need to be leaving notifications (or warnings) for every revert, regardless of how many edits the user has made or whether this is the user's first instance of vandalism. -Fastily 01:07, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
- Fastily, I'm already using Twinkle. I've warned many users for vandalism, but I don't warn new users who have made only one edit, as per "Back Biting" guideline. Instead, I typically warn a user after their second vandalism attempt. But in future I'll consider warning users even after one non-constructive edit. ®asteem Talk 21:47, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- Explanations about edit warning notice
- On Political marriages in India[3] User: NXcrypto made 2 reverts for the same content within 5 hours (Time 12:13 to 17:31)[4][5] I made only one revert.[6] For such a revert, I made on "Political marriages in India". NXcrypto gave me an edit warning at (12:15, 15 November 2024).[7] Instead of engaging in any edit war, I left a note on Talk:Political marriages in India[8] regarding the concern of removal of a revision. Contrary to the other user's actions, which constituted a 2RR violation, my own edits were compliant with Wikipedia's 2revert Rule.[9]
- He also violates 2RR on Chandraseniya Kayastha Prabhu on October 27, 2024, within 5_hours (Time 12:49 to 18:20).[10][11]
- Most recently, he violated 3RR on Magadhan Empire on 17 October within 3_hours (Time 6:32 to 9:14).[12][13][14]
- User received a warning notice from admin Bishonen[15]
- He was warned about the improper user of warning and blocking templates by Remsense[16]
- He also received edit warning notices from other editors for the conduct of edit wars.[17][18][19][20][21][22] ®asteem Talk 19:43, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Rasteem There is no such thing as "2RR violation" and do not poison the well against editors who oppose your request for rollback. You clearly did not make a "single" revert as you claimed, but the chain of edits you made were all just reverting the previous edits by Ratnahastin. [23][24][25] The fact that you do not even understand what counts as a "revert" and WP:BRD cycle is an enough proof that you should not be given an advanced permission whose sole purpose is to revert. @Fastily: As someone who has dealt with this user's aggressive edit warring, WP:CIR, WP:IDHT , battleground mentality issues before which are visible even in the reply above. I'm firmly opposed to granting any advanced permission to him. I have no doubt that this user will abuse the rollback right, if granted in his typical over-zealous edit warring like he did before[26][27][28][29], in spite of my warning which he called retaliatory despite me never even interacting with him before. Nxcrypto Message 02:04, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- I've reviewed the diffs and from what I can see there does indeed seem to be some edit warring going on over here. Rasteem, please take a moment to re-review WP:EW & WP:3RR; I'd like to see first establish a track record of constructive contributions before reapplying for rollback. As such, closing as Not done. Thanks, Fastily 09:31, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- Myrealnamm (t · th · c · del · cross-wiki · SUL · edit counter · pages created (xtools · sigma) · non-automated edits · BLP edits · undos · manual reverts · rollbacks · logs (blocks · rights · moves) · rfar · spi · cci)
I think I am ready for Rollback user rights, after being declined twice before. I have 1835 mainspace edits, several months finding and reverting vandalism, and almost always notifying editors about their edits. I understand that Rollback is only used for obvious vandalism, and it should not be used for good-faith edits. Myrealnamm (💬Let's talk · 📜My work) 21:31, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- SayantanDhara (t · th · c · del · cross-wiki · SUL · edit counter · pages created (xtools · sigma) · non-automated edits · BLP edits · undos · manual reverts · rollbacks · logs (blocks · rights · moves) · rfar · spi · cci)
Reason for requesting rollback rights: I am deeply interested in editing and improving Wikipedia articles, with a particular focus on topics related to films. Given the prevalence of vandalism in film-related articles, I believe having rollback rights would enable me to address such issues more efficiently. I am committed to contributing positively to Wikipedia and ensuring the integrity of its content. SayantanDhara (talk) 04:48, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- Not done I reviewed your contributions and found little to no recent anti-vandalism work. If you're still interested in this tool then please spend at least a month actively patrolling RecentChanges (Twinkle & Ultraviolet can help with that) before reapplying. Also, please ensure that you are consistently warning editors when you revert their edits. Thanks, Fastily 03:45, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- GrabUp (t · th · c · del · cross-wiki · SUL · edit counter · pages created (xtools · sigma) · non-automated edits · BLP edits · undos · manual reverts · rollbacks · logs (blocks · rights · moves) · rfar · spi · cci)
Hey, I was granted a 3-month trial by Robertsky, and I used Anti-Vandal to counter vandalism. However, it was not renewed. Now I would like to continue using this amazing tool to counter vandalism. Thanks. GrabUp - Talk 14:27, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- Not done I reviewed your contributions and found little to no recent anti-vandalism work. If you're still interested in this tool then please spend at least a month actively patrolling RecentChanges (Twinkle & Ultraviolet can help with that) before reapplying. Also, please ensure that you are consistently warning editors when you revert their edits. Thanks, Fastily 03:45, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Fastily: Does my previous trial not provide enough evidence of my experience with this tool? I don’t like the layout of SPECIAL:RECENTCHANGES, where I have to manually handle these tasks. That’s why I haven’t done much anti-vandalism work recently. However, during my trial period, when I had access to the Anti-Vandal tool, I performed sufficient anti-vandalism work. Where is it written that I need to perform anti-vandalism work in recent days to qualify for the rollback role? The requirement simply states, “At least a month of experience patrolling Special:RecentChanges.” I have used the Anti-Vandal tool during my 3-month trial and demonstrated sufficient experience. Additionally, I consistently warn users when I revert their edits. GrabUp - Talk 05:10, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Are you aware that rollback functionality is already available in Twinkle or Ultraviolet and that you don't need elevated permissions to access these tools? The rollback right gates access to high-volume anti-vandalism tools such as Huggle or AntiVandal which are for patrolling RecentChanges. In the wrong hands, these tools can cause a lot damage in a short amount of time. So I have to admit, this is an unusual request. It has been months since your trial ended, I haven't seen any obvious need for the right based on your recent contributions, and you don't seem to be interested in patrolling RecentChanges, so why are you suddenly interested in this right? -Fastily 06:24, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- I want access to the Anti-Vandal tool, which will automate the process. I didn’t say I dislike the RecentChanges feature, but rather the manual process involved. I have not caused any type of damage with any tools I have more valuable than the rollback right, nor did I misuse this tool when I had it for three months. I hope you understand. Cheers! GrabUp - Talk 06:29, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Fair enough. However, I see that you were blocked for disruptive hat collecting last June. Would you care to comment on that? Also courtesy ping for @Joe Roe. -Fastily 09:31, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Fastily: Yeah, I was. It was because of NPP. Since then, I have done a lot of work, which is why I gained trust and received the AP and NPP temp flags. I am using these flags not just for show. Also, I would like to add that I want my application to be reviewed by another admin, as Fastily may lost community trust during the Recall and has just posted a resignation request at the Bureaucrats’ noticeboard. If recent vandalism work is needed, then update the notification at this permission to state, ‘Recent one month of experience is needed,’ instead of ‘One month of experience needed.’ GrabUp - Talk 08:32, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- Recent one month of experience is not strictly necessary. You can get this right with, say, recent three weeks of experience. What is necessary is having at least one month of any experience. That's why the header says that. JJPMaster (she/they) 15:16, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- @JJPMaster: Thanks for your reply. What I’m saying is that I had this right before, which expired in August, and I want it again. I held the right for three months and obviously have more than one month of experience. GrabUp - Talk 15:20, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- Recent one month of experience is not strictly necessary. You can get this right with, say, recent three weeks of experience. What is necessary is having at least one month of any experience. That's why the header says that. JJPMaster (she/they) 15:16, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Fastily: Yeah, I was. It was because of NPP. Since then, I have done a lot of work, which is why I gained trust and received the AP and NPP temp flags. I am using these flags not just for show. Also, I would like to add that I want my application to be reviewed by another admin, as Fastily may lost community trust during the Recall and has just posted a resignation request at the Bureaucrats’ noticeboard. If recent vandalism work is needed, then update the notification at this permission to state, ‘Recent one month of experience is needed,’ instead of ‘One month of experience needed.’ GrabUp - Talk 08:32, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- Fair enough. However, I see that you were blocked for disruptive hat collecting last June. Would you care to comment on that? Also courtesy ping for @Joe Roe. -Fastily 09:31, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- I want access to the Anti-Vandal tool, which will automate the process. I didn’t say I dislike the RecentChanges feature, but rather the manual process involved. I have not caused any type of damage with any tools I have more valuable than the rollback right, nor did I misuse this tool when I had it for three months. I hope you understand. Cheers! GrabUp - Talk 06:29, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Are you aware that rollback functionality is already available in Twinkle or Ultraviolet and that you don't need elevated permissions to access these tools? The rollback right gates access to high-volume anti-vandalism tools such as Huggle or AntiVandal which are for patrolling RecentChanges. In the wrong hands, these tools can cause a lot damage in a short amount of time. So I have to admit, this is an unusual request. It has been months since your trial ended, I haven't seen any obvious need for the right based on your recent contributions, and you don't seem to be interested in patrolling RecentChanges, so why are you suddenly interested in this right? -Fastily 06:24, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Fastily: Does my previous trial not provide enough evidence of my experience with this tool? I don’t like the layout of SPECIAL:RECENTCHANGES, where I have to manually handle these tasks. That’s why I haven’t done much anti-vandalism work recently. However, during my trial period, when I had access to the Anti-Vandal tool, I performed sufficient anti-vandalism work. Where is it written that I need to perform anti-vandalism work in recent days to qualify for the rollback role? The requirement simply states, “At least a month of experience patrolling Special:RecentChanges.” I have used the Anti-Vandal tool during my 3-month trial and demonstrated sufficient experience. Additionally, I consistently warn users when I revert their edits. GrabUp - Talk 05:10, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Lemonademan22 (t · th · c · del · cross-wiki · SUL · edit counter · pages created (xtools · sigma) · non-automated edits · BLP edits · undos · manual reverts · rollbacks · logs (blocks · rights · moves) · rfar · spi · cci)
Reason for requesting rollback rights Lemonademan22 (talk) 15:43, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
I request this tool to counter vandalism, which I am seeing constantly especially on the articles I edit. I am a very active user and are already reverting edits and warning users of unsourced material or cases of WP:OR Lemonademan22 (talk) 15:43, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- Not done I reviewed your contributions and found little to no recent anti-vandalism work. If you're still interested in this tool then please spend at least a month actively patrolling RecentChanges (Twinkle & Ultraviolet can help with that) before reapplying. Also, please ensure that you are consistently warning editors when you revert their edits. Thanks, Fastily 03:45, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- I respectfully disagree. I think I do a lot of anti-vandalism work, albeit casually, on Professional wrestling articles. Here are some anti-vandalism contributions I have made this month alone: [30] [31] [32] [33] [34] [35] [36] [37] [38] [39] [40] [41] [42] [43] I hope you can look at these and reconsider. If not, I will take your advice on board and I will start warning users when I revert their edits. Lemonademan22 (talk) 21:29, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry but that's simply not enough activity for me to determine whether you'll be able to use rollback appropriately. For context, seasoned anti-vandalism patrollers routinely perform dozens of reverts a day. Like I said above, I'd like to see you get some more experience before reapplying, thanks. -Fastily 09:31, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- I respectfully disagree. I think I do a lot of anti-vandalism work, albeit casually, on Professional wrestling articles. Here are some anti-vandalism contributions I have made this month alone: [30] [31] [32] [33] [34] [35] [36] [37] [38] [39] [40] [41] [42] [43] I hope you can look at these and reconsider. If not, I will take your advice on board and I will start warning users when I revert their edits. Lemonademan22 (talk) 21:29, 17 November 2024 (UTC)