Wikipedia:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places/NRIS information issues/Oregon

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Omissions and exclusions

• In Clackamas County, NRIS omits River Mill Hydroelectric Project. Or, rather, it includes it but with listing status="DR", which, depending on the meaning of that status code, excludes it from being considered NRHP-listed. Wikipedia tables of NRHP listings have been excluding entries into NRIS database with listing code "DR". I have believed that code means an owner objection was filed, preventing the property from being added, not sure if that is correct. The DR code can be seen by searching for it in the regular Elkman infobox generator which now reports status DO and DR and some others perhaps. The NRHP.COM site and some other mirrors do not make distinctions about delisted sites, eligible-but-owner-objection, and certain other categories in the NRIS database, so NRHP.COM erroneously reports as NRHP-listed a fair number of sites that are not in fact NRHP sites. The Oregon state PDF list of NRHP sites includes this property. Questions:
  • Question 1: What does "DR" signify? If it does mean owner objection filed, can it be said that the property is NRHP-eligible, but not NRHP-listed?
  • Question 2: Should this property have that code or not? It was reported with no qualification in the new weekly listing report of May 18, 2001, at http://www.nps.gov/history/nr/listings/20010518.htm.
  • Question 3: What is the correct date of its listing. The new listing report stated May 1, 2001. However, the NRIS database gives April 03, 2001 as its listing date.

Based on reporting of Katr67, Ipoellet, others. doncram (talk) 22:04, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

• NOTE: There are apparent omissions in NRIS of other properties reported listed in the same week's weekly listing report, including Hope-Van Allen House, 352 NW Drake Rd., Bend, 01000495, LISTED, 5/10/01, in Deschutes County.

• In Deschutes County, an apparent error in NRIS: Hope-Van Allen House, 352 NW Drake Rd., Bend, 01000495, LISTED, 5/10/01, in Deschutes County, according to http://www.nps.gov/history/nr/listings/20010518.htm. However, NRIS omits, apparently in error. Shows on Oregon PDF list.

Possible NRIS or Oregon PDF list errors:

• Note, in Deschutes County the Oregon PDF list also includes two others not listed in NRIS:
  • House, 503 NW Delaware, Redmond, Deschutes County
  • Shevlin-Hixon Mill Buildings, Riverside Blvd , Bend, Deschutes County
• Further, Oregon PDF fails to include 5 which appear in NRIS:
  • Congress Apartments
  • Benjamin Hamilton House
  • Thomas McCann House
  • Robert D. Moore House
  • George Palmer and Dorothy Binney Putnam House

doncram (talk) 05:09, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

• In Douglas County, NRIS omits
  • English Settlement School, in Oakland. It is included in Oregon state PDF list. This Oregon press release reports English Settlement School was listed in 2007: http://www.prd.state.or.us/news.php?id=954 (first Google hit on "English Settlement School"+Oregon+"National Register").
  • Umpqua River Bridge No. 01822 in Reedsport. The bridge was listed in '05, along with all the other coastal bridges: http://www.nps.gov/history/nr/listings/20050902.HTM .

These 2 omissions were identified by Katr67. doncram (talk) 00:30, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

• In Jefferson County, Oregon Pacific Railroad Linear Historic District is listed in NRIS in Marion County, Oregon. It is shown in Oregon PDF both in Jefferson County and in Marion county, as being in Unincorporated area of both. It appears to be an NRIS error of omission not to have a secondary listing for it in Jefferson County. doncram (talk) 19:31, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

• In Malheur County, NRIS omits Moses and Mary Hart Stone House and Ranch Complex. Not in NRIS, but listed with refnum 01000498 in 2001 according to http://www.nps.gov/history/nr/listings/20010518.htm. Appears in Oregon PDF list. doncram (talk) 05:59, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Property names

• NRIS lists "House White John B." for the property at 86 N. River Rd., Rock Point, Oregon, with refnum=78002294. Surely this should be John B. White House or "White, John B. House". doncram (talk) 18:27, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

• Willamette Station Site, Methodist Mission in Oregon, listed August 01, 1984, Address Restricted, in/near Gervais, Oregon. The name in NRIS is misspelt as "Williamette Station Site, Methodist Mission in Oregon", misspelling is the extra "i" added to "Willamette". doncram (talk) 19:06, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

• For Jean Baptiste Charbonneau Memorial and Inskip Station Ruins, in or near Danner, Oregon, NRIS lists as "Charbonneau,Jean Baptiste, Memorial and Inskip Station RuinS". It would seem better to include a space before Jean and to use lowercase S at very end. Perhaps this reflects space constraint in the NRIS database name field (is 64 the max number of characters?), but still the uppercase can be changed. Note lastname/comma-unwrapped version, "Jean Baptiste Charbonneau Memorial and Inskip Station Ruins" fits with one extra space, although maybe that may sort to Jean rather than Charbonneau in NRIS reports (not a problem in wikipedia). doncram (talk) 15:59, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

• Joseph and Barbara Maurer House, at 35168 Tennessee Rd. in Lebanon, Oregon is listed in NRIS with Barbara miss-spelled as "Barbar". Oregon PDF list spells as "Maurer, Joseph & Barbara, House", in Linn County, Oregon. doncram (talk) 03:18, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

• Ecola Point Site (35CLT21), Address restricted, Cannon Beach, is reported in NRIS with typo showing as "Bcola" rather than Ecola. Mirror sites like www.nationalregisterofhistoricplaces.com follow NRIS error. Correct name of "Ecola" is shown in Oregon state's list and in the U.S. Federal Register, published here.

References

• For NRIS listing of Monahan House, there is no house of that name in Oregon PDF. Oregon calls same address/same refnum house John T. Hash House instead. Appears that NRIS listing should be revised to show John T. Hash House at least as an alternate. Or perhaps NRIS listing named the wrong house from the MRA? No documentation available now to show this is a house with two alternate names, but perhaps that is the case, or either NRIS or Oregon just mistated the name of the house. doncram (talk) 18:24, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

• NRIS lists two places in Dayton, Oregon (covered in National Register of Historic Places listings in Yamhill County, Oregon) as "Londerhausen House", one at 309 Main St. (refnum=87000384) and one at 402 Main St. (refnum=87000383). These are known locally as Paul Londershausen House and Gottlieb Londershausen House. Could these be renamed in NRIS to the locally used names which distinguish between them? Noted by User:Katr67. doncram (talk) 09:09, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

These are in fact named "Paul Londershausen House" and "Gottlieb Londershausen House" in the Oregon National Register List. doncram (talk) 09:13, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

• The "Mizpah Presbyterian Church of East Portland" is listed in the NRIS as "Mizpah Presbytarian Church of East Portland" (refnum=83002174). Obvious misspelling. The correct spelling is reflected in the article and in the Oregon National Register List.--Dudemanfellabra (talk) 15:47, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

• the Hibernian Hall in Portland, Oregon, now known as Wonder Ballroom, is misstated as "Hiberian Hall" in NRIS. Correct to "Hibernian" from "Hiberian". --doncram 02:46, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

• The Sumpter Valley Railway, Middle Fork (John Day River) Spur, near Bates, Oregon, is the listing name in the Oregon State register system, and is what appears on the NRHP nomination form. In NRIS it is given as Sumpter Valley Railway, Middle Fork-John Day River, which seems garbled, just wrong. "Spur" is needed as part of the name. --doncram 23:42, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

• Document SWITCHEROO: The [[Gottlieb Londershausen House, at 402 Main Street, Dayton, Oregon, is one block away from the NRHP-listed Paul Londershausen House, located at 309 Main Street. Both houses were listed on the NRHP with the same name, Londerhausen House, in 1987. In an apparent document switcheroo, the National Park Service text document available at the Paul Londershausen House's reference number (NRIS #87000384) is the form describing the Gottlieb Londershausen House (NRIS #87000383) and vice versa, while their corresponding photo documents are filed at their correct reference numbers.
  • For the property given reference number 87000383
    • https://npgallery.nps.gov/NRHP/GetAsset/NRHP/87000384_text is the relevant Dayton Historic Resources Inventory form Londershausen Residence / Culp Residence
    • photo is the corresponding photo
  • For the property given reference number 87000384
    • https://npgallery.nps.gov/NRHP/GetAsset/NRHP/87000383_text is the relevant Dayton Historic Resources Inventory form Londershausen Residence / Walters Residence
    • photo is the corresponding photo

--doncram 06:04, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

• Grants Pass City Hall and Fire Station is misspelled in NRIS2013a as "Grant Pass ...". It is in the municipality of Grants Pass, Oregon and the NRHP nom shows "Grants Pass" in title: D. Lorin Jacobs (March 9, 1984). "National Register of Historic Places Inventory/Nomination: Grants Pass City Hall and Fire Station". National Park Service. Retrieved October 8, 2018. With accompanying nine photos from c.1916 and 1984. --Doncram (talk) 19:15, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

• Wilhemina vs. Wilhelmina. Which is correct: Henry C. and Wilhemina Bruening House or Henry C. and Wilhelmina Bruening House? See discussion at Talk:Henry C. and Wilhemina Bruening House#Wilhemina vs. Wilhelmina. Participants sharing views include User:Ipoellet, User:Another Believer, User:Anthony Appleyard, User:Ipoellet, User:Shams lnm, User:Schazjmd. IMHO, this should eventually be sorted with the Oregon state historic preservation office, who have authority to make request to the National Park Service for correction of the official NRHP listing name to be changed in the NRIS database, if the NRIS-listed name is in fact incorrect. --Doncram (talk) 01:10, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

County location issue

• Edward W. St. Pierre House, which is in Polk County, Oregon, is listed in NRIS as being in Marion County, Oregon. It is actually located in the West Salem neighborhood of the city of Salem, Oregon, the one neighborhood of the city that is in Polk County rather than Marion. The house is shown in Polk County in the State of Oregon's PDF list of NRHP listings of the state, the Oregon National Register List at http://www.oregon.gov/OPRD/HCD/NATREG/docs/oregon_nr_list.pdf. Noted by Katr67. doncram (talk) 19:58, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

The NRIS coordinates for the house, which can be clicked on from the wikipedia article about it now, place it clearly in Polk County, when viewed in Mapquest which shows county boundaries. doncram (talk) 18:42, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

• Olallie Lake Guard Station, S of Pinhead Buttes, Mt. Hood NF, with NRIS-given coordinates 44°48′52″N 121°47′22″W is listed in NRIS as being near Estacada and being located in Marion County. Oregon PDF lists it in Jefferson County. Its coordinates appear to place it in Jefferson County, so it appears that NRIS county location is incorrect. That it is near Estacada is okay to say, as that is apparently the nearest city, driving, although other communities are closer and perhaps another city is closer, flying. Estacada is in Clackamas County. Corrections info by Aboutmovies. doncram (talk) 19:07, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Town location issue

• Lost Creek Bridge, in Lake Creek, Oregon is identified in NRIS as being in "Lakecreek", should be "Lake Creek". See http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Lake_Creek,_Oregon . doncram (talk) 19:13, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

• Gordon House, at 879 W. Main St. in Silverton, Oregon, is listed in NRIS as being in "Siverton" rather than Silverton. Noted by katr67. doncram (talk) 08:14, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

• Liberty Theater (La Grande, Oregon), at 1008 and 1010 Adams Ave., La Grande, is listed in NRIS as being in "Lagrande" instead of La Grande. Other NRHP listings are listed in NRIS at La Grande. doncram (talk) 15:04, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Address issues

• George Taylor House (Corvallis, Oregon) is located at 504 NW Street, not on SW Street as NRIS reports. Also, the house was built in 1900 not in 1896 as NRIS reports and as was originally reported in the NRHP application document. The address correction was noted by User:46percent who photographed the property for wikipedia. The City of Corvallis confirms that the address is 504 NW 6th Street, and states it was built in 1900 not in 1896. doncram (talk) 22:47, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Reference

• Joseph Wesely House and Barn, Scio, Oregon, address correct to 38791 OR 226, noted by 46percent, from NRIS 38712 OR 226. Info from http://www.cabbage-patch-b-and-b.com/Oregon-B-and-B/WeselyHouse/wesely_house.html . doncram (talk) 07:33, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Architect, Builder, Engineer issues

• For Alexander D. McDougall House (#99000359), NRIS lists the architect as Ellis L. Lawrence, consistently with the nomination document. However the architect is Ellis F. Lawrence, as documented in MPS about him and his works. --doncram 22:24, 9 November 2016 (UTC)
• Ditto for Natt and Christena McDougall House, with its NRHP nomination document, also naming incorrectly the architect whose real name is Ellis F. Lawrence. --doncram 23:27, 9 November 2016 (UTC)